Administration/generals implicitly blaming the American people for Iraq, just as Clark predicted.

They've already started the new meme for their failure in Iraq...blame Americans who did not have enough "patience."

A top U.S. commander's view from the ground
POSTED: 11:07 p.m. EST, January 7, 2007

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno returns to Baghdad with perhaps the most difficult job in the U.S. military -- to stop Iraq's brutal insurgency and help pave the way for Iraqi troops to take over their country's security.

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How much longer will people wait until things get better?

"The Joint Chief's of Staff has the patience, the administration has the patience ... THE QUESTION, OF COURSE, IS WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE," Odierno said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/07/iraq.warrior/index.html


OP-ED "Before It's too Late in Iraq"
By Gen. (ret.) Wesley Clark
Washington Post
August 26, 2005

"President Bush and his team are repeating the failure of Vietnam – failing to craft a realistic and effective policy, and in its place, SIMPLY DEMANDING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOW RESOLVE. Resolve alone isn't enough to mend a flawed approach. If the Administration won't adopt a winning strategy, then the American people will be justified in demanding that the Administration bring our troops home."

http://securingamerica.com/articles/wapo/2005-08-26

chaos they leave behind there, count on it. Even when they say "American people, the implicit message is the blame rests with liberals, Democrats, etc.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.startribune.com%2F722%2Fstory%2F921523.html

We're being ROVED..

Clearly the article I read did not portray this person's views entirely accurately.

I responded likewise in the Biden thread..

What I saw and heard on MTP this am, were not the same conclusions drawn by other posters.

There is foul play afoot with a complicit media..

Beware dear friend..Neocons are using a whole new arsenal of tricks..

HOW DARE THEY NOT STAND UP!!!! As if they invited this f***ing mess into their country.

Gen. Odierno in no way blamed the American people for Iraq. He only mentions them in a somewhat subjective context. I took his statement to mean that continuing the war is ultimately the decision of the American people, which it should be.

It is clear from the context he is saying the administration and generals on the ground have the patience to "win," but winning will depend on the "patience" of the American people.

Read the whole article.

Don't forget it.

Bush's only concern is securing the oil pipeline and creating a safe working envronment for OIL Contractors.
It can't be done. It's their oil and we are trespassers looking to pirate the rights to THEIR oil reserves.

The Iraqis know it and will continue the insurgency to send the West a clear cut message. The Iraqi people
aren't stupid. The US oil deals take 75% of the profit and expect no taxation in return for the drilling

There is no benfit to the Iraqis. Iraqis are using the insurgency saying, how many US lives are you willing to sacrifice before you understand, you are not going to "own" our OIL!

Well, the answer is obvious. As far as Bush is concerned, it's no skin off his back how many Americans
die needlessly. Like the General said, it's about how much (death and maiming) the American people are willing to
put up with until they say it (to their Congresspeople)loud and clear...ENOUGH IS ENOUGH..IRAG IS ANOTHER VIETNAM..BRING EM HOME!

OIl companies being the prime beneficiaries.Defense contractors and associated financial institutions also immediately profiting from the draining of the treasury.You provide the cannon fodder and taxes,they receive the profit.REMEMBER;they'll tell you," don't become impatient and ask for a stop to the War,the domestic repression ,the assault on the Bill of Rights.Its a complicated issue,takes time to resolve".The elites can't be hurried,they're profiting on your blood and treasure.They'll tell you,you own party will tell you;"DON'T BECOME IMPATIENT.Just wait quietly and ask for a few crumbs,its a complex issue".Bullshit.These are the same people,your own party,who voted for the war in the first place,who voted for the Bankruptcy Act,who are supposed to support the interests of the people but don't.Why?Because they are the paid whores of corporate lobbyists,they toe the corporate line.If you don't push them nothing will happen.

Republicans are resorting to their old tactics..Keep the American People Confused..
and contained. No one allowed to think for themselves because of what they read and believe
as the Truth.

But not completely.The thematic nature of political reporting in the media,the pursuit of hot issues,the appearance(Obama) and disappearance(Howard Dean)of certain candidates for reasons that are obscure.It is quite clear that the war is a resource grab,simple issue.What is unclear and disturbing to me is not the role of the Republican party,which is openly fascistic,but rather the role of the Democratic party which,while purporting to support the interests of the people( Peace and Prosperity),often behaves in an enabling,supportive manner paralleling the republicans.

A valid observation. With the newly elected Democratic majority (who by the way, have not been in power for over the last 14yrs.) We, like you, are waiting to see IF our majority will have the power and resolve to change the way Republicans have done business by and for the people. I don't believe the Democrats are afraid to stand up to the opposing party. It is more like, we are faced with dirty tricks which are commonplace within a ruling (nefarious) faction of the Republican Party. Where time will tell, IF we have the ability to overcome unfavorable outcomes.

best regards to you,

dos pelos..

The rest is garbage.

anybody expected differently?

They also blamed the people for Nam... so this one should not be shocking at all

Did you read the story?

He questioned the patience because of the Sacrifices that American families have made. And he tells what went wrong, blaming the military.

Also, his son was in an attack & nearly died.

This guy gets it.

He says all we need is patience. He's 100% wrong.

Of course, in the postion he's in, he's required to mouth the same old BS, but it's still annoying to hear anyone put the burden of "success" for this fiasco on the shoulders of the American people and their "patience."

He's been blaming the American public for weeks now.

This has been a meme spread by nazi party talkshow hosts for a while now.

into the sea of public opinion.

Tell those idiots to sit tight. They are about to see some g-damnned resolve. They should hark back to November 7th and think on THAT. Might provide a valuable clue.