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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 02:52 PM
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The Bunning Amendment just failed
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 02:53 PM by underpants
51 votes against -I didn't hear the pros count

The Bunning Amendment (Jim Bunning R-Ky.) has been put up many times and it always fails. It would have cut the tax on Soc.Sec. benefits and wages over $34,000 for single and $44,000 for couples FROM 85% back to the 50% it was before being raised in 1993. Soc.Sec. benefits were originally taxes in 1983 (Reagan signed it).

The Bunning Amendment would have "cost" $200 Billion in lost tax revenue.

http://www.cincypost.com/2005/03/25/edita032505.html

Until 1993, the portion of Social Security benefits subject to taxation was limited to 50 percent. That year Congress -- struggling to shore up the Medicare health care program for seniors -- raised the cap to 85 percent. That doesn't mean seniors pay an 85 percent tax rate on their benefits. It means that, at most, 85 percent of their Social Security benefits are subject to the income tax at whatever rate they pay on their other income.

The Bunning amendment would re-establish the cutoff at 50 percent for Social Security recipients with income of more than $34,000 or couples making more than $44,000.


IT was on C-Span2
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:00 PM
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1. And I was afraid Paris Hilton was gonna lose her tax cut ...
there is a God!
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:29 PM
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3. Bad news for middle-class retirees. Good news for the wealthy. Their tax cuts are protected.
The middle class ispaying the taxes so the wealthy don't have to.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:25 PM
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2. Isn't Social Security double-taxed?
Aren't taxes paid at the time payments are taken out of paychecks?

So why are they taxing it a second time.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:52 PM
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5. This is why I won't do a Roth IRA
My Accountant was trying to sell me on a ROTH IRA because you pay the taxes now and don't pay later... I said, really? Wasn't that the concept of Social Security???

Nuff said!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 07:06 PM
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6. No, they are not.
SS and FICA are deducted independently from income taxes. with sufficient deductions, one may owe zero income taxes but the amount of "FICA" wages are still subject to "payroll" taxes.

Winger idiots somehow think the services of the government can be supplied magically, with no financial input at all. A pleasant but fatal illusion.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:48 PM
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4. Jim Bunning (R - Still Ambulatory)
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