James Carville: Gore's "going to run, and he's going to be formidable."

Gore running would change the dynamics of the 2008 elections dramatically, wouldn't it?

I guess we'll see if it's true, but I keep considering who Carville crawls into bed with at night, and that alone removes most of his credibility in my opinion.

Gore wouldn't trust Carville with any information about his thoughts on running. I'm sure Gore read Woodward's book.

If the Right One doesn't get you than the Left one will...

The leftwing sux... at least the rightwing know how to shutup! :hi:

"One fist of iron
The other of steel
If the right one don't get ya
Then the left one weel."

and giving Hillary more time to gain ground...

Gain ground on who? Herself?:rofl:

Hey, even one that runs backward is right every now and then.

...until he answers questions about what he did on Election eve with his wife, as illustrated in State of Denial by Bob Woodward (pp. 343-346)...

This guy has no cred anymore.

so we know what you're talking about?

...Carville letting the Bush campaign by phone know something about the Dem candidate's strategy regarding challenging results. I can't recall the exact details, but that's the gist of it.

In a nutshell:

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes."

Didn't know - thanks for that. :hi:

I don't understand how this kept Kerry from challenging the election. Did Kerry give up just because Blackwell had been contacted?

What am I missing here?

number of provisional ballots was 100,000 less than thought the night before.

It was estimated that there were 250,000 uncounted provisional ballots, but when Blackwell got wind of Kerry's strategy from Carville's tip, it was estimated to be only 180,000, which would have made the recount pointless.

I remember going into my local Dem headquarters to work that day - they said, forget it, we got the word from national that the vote is overwhelming in Ohio.

All because Carville called Matalin who told Cheney who told Blackwell who told Dem campaign there were'nt enough provisionals to matter.

That is one scary photo.

And you question Carville's lack of "cred"?

I wonder what those DU'ers will have to spin about this one. lol

I'm glad you don't think that's a big deal...giving information away to the enemy camp on Election eve... yeah, no biggie...

Carville has not given an account of what Woodward has written about him on Election night. Are you curious or should he be given a free pass?

Hey, it's only election tampering and telling the opposition their opposition's strategy...

The speech was given less than a month before Congress voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq - - the main point of the speech is that Congress should vote against the resolution.

http://www.algore.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=84

primarily because he's happy doing what he's doing now. However, should he run, he will definitely be a top-tier candidate, along with Edwards, Obama and Hillary.

He's very last century.

It makes Gore sound like a sure winner! As Martha would say, "That's a good thing"...especially if he selects CLARK to be his VP.
THAT'S A SURE WINNING COMBINATION! Between the two...they master all required elements to run a successful Presidency. Nothing could be better for the whole world.

of excrement says.

May I suggest:

Gore's "going to run, and he's going to WIN."

:evilgrin:

"Even Gore's prescience on the war may not be the towering advantage that many are predicting. "One is always penalized for being right about too many things," Carville says. "Prophets are shot in this town."

That bastard said the same thing about Dean...right too often. He sure hates people who are right.




http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_elizabet_051007_carville__dems_need_.htm

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"Gore claimed he invented the INTERNET."

Given that his vice-presidential campaign theme in 1992 was the creation of the INTERNET, that the men in charge of the technicians who created the INTERNET said they were acting on Gore's directives, and the various computer and telecommunication companies who formed the company that owns the backbone of the INTERNET say Gore brought them together to form that company, then Gore has a pretty good claim to having invented the INTERNET.


I don't even remember them all now. But all the lies told by "the serial liar" turned out to have been either the truth or never to have been said. So Carville is correct. Being right seemed to have hurt Gore last time around. Apparently he'd have been better off pretending to be stupider than he really was.

Or look at the current occupant of the American White House. He seems to have never done anything right in his life. And look at how that worked out for him? Didn't turn out all that hot for the United States or the rest of the world. But everything has turned out just fine for him.

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the DLC managed the Gore scene in 2000 and gave him plenty of bad advice and decisions. They never tried to seriously combat the lies about Gore, for example. What I don't know for sure, but I assume - the DLC ran the vote recount stuff? They were the ones who arranged the lawyers? And they did the same thing with Kerry - they picked him and advised him and they screwed things twice.

Someone should educate me, but just as I had to figure out the structure of the armies in place to take down Clinton in the 90's - I'm trying to figure out the dealings of the DLC by reading the lines and between the lines. And I'm full of disapproval. RIGHT OF CENTER is not a good setting. Moving FURTHER RIGHT is a disaster for the Democratic Party., imo.

I hope the people prevail over the DLC and we get our favorite in the end.

w00t

I still don't believe Gore's going to run though...

www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7020213

I'm listening now to refresh my memory. I think it was a 'maybe he will run' sort of comment in response to a question. It caught my attention when I heard it initially, especially considering the source.

I wonder if Brazille and Gore are still close enough for her to have inside knowledge. :shrug:

and she cannot be trusted about anything she says.

I pity the candidate who opposes him.
Unless it is Throwback, then I will point and laugh.

I can feel it in my bones. When he does and wins, I believe he has the chance to go down in history as one of the greatest presidents ever. It is simply opportunity connecting with ability. Opportunity as represented by the Chinese symbol with a double meaning of crisis/opportunity.

I just saw a recently taken picture of him. Looked like he's getting back to his fighting weight. You know what that means.

YES!!!

I'm an Obama supporter and I would love to see him at the top of the ticket, mainly because I think he would get voters excited and headed to the polls en masse.

As powerful a candidate as Obama is, though, he needs to run with the right person in order to make it a comprehensive package, especially in the foreign policy arena.

I'd like to see Obama/Clark or Obama/Webb. I leave Gore out only because I don't think he'd want to be VP again. If he wants to be top dog and chooses Obama, I still think it could work. I think it would be a tougher sell, because so many people wrongly view him as someone who already lost one bid. Still, I think he would make a fantastic president, especially with Obama by his side.

Let the liberal blogs protect Gore's back.

being very interested in the top job.

I expect Gore to jump in.

To you Carville...:thumbsdown:

nt

if we can...didn't surprise me at all what he did. And Donna Brazil used to say he wasn't running so if she is now saying maybe...she must know something...

I think he is going to join the race this summer...it is my prayer....

like you in this uncertain age. Well how convenient, they also WANT you badly in office. Take up the torch again brother, and lead this country in the years to come. Don't micro-manage it, don't go into it with the management mentality in the least. You need to LEAD a country that has been led down some dark alleys and robbed blind recently. Harness the upheaval over the illegal occupation of Iraq, show the unmistakable incompetence of the prior administration... I mean... people are going to need closure on this chapter of history. A lot of closure, and healing. The Republican-led Congress couldn't possibly have achieved what they wanted to... now could they? I've heard arguments that republicans' actions don't show incompetence but rather an inherent flaw in conservative ideology. And while that is great little liberal repartee to yet another liberal talking-point... come on... you know deep down the best talking-point is this: the people who have run our country for the past 8 years were unfit to do so. And that is because it contains the most truth. Don't play nice, don't move on too quickly, that is what your most vile and nasty enemies expect of you; they will not respect you for that noble decision. Open a can of whoop-ass on them first, let the whole world laugh with you as you piss off every close-minded conservative who futilely tries to stand in the way of your many eminent environmental protections. But now I am getting ahead of myself. Run AL!

... (politically) would make me happier. I could work for Gore, contribute to Gore and vote for Gore without reservation.

And yes, I believe that if he runs, he has a very good shot at the nomination, and would be damn near unbeatable in the general.

:hi:

I don't think of James Carville as a credible source.

Hekate

Terry has been going to every news outlet he can and trashing both Gore and Kerry. I'm sure they know now whatever comes out of TeamClinton it is not in their interest.

I did'mt think so, but you sure are contributing a lot of hot air to it. As if anything this sellout says means anything. But I suppose some are willing to latch on to anything.

James Carville throwing your name in the race, or Dick "toesucker" Morris doing so?

Neither is a Democrat, (though both have claimed to be)that much is certain.

Carville and his sidekick Paul Begala are only interested in one thing: get Hillary the nomination by any means necessary, including sowing dissention and confusion among the supporters of other candidates.

Carville is as credible as Rove!