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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:46 AM
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Cheney: U.S. carrier to Gulf sends "strong signal" (Reuters)
Cheney: U.S. carrier to Gulf sends "strong signal"

39 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - By deploying a second aircraft carrier to the Gulf
the United States has sent a "strong signal" that it is in the region to stay
and working with allies to deal with an Iranian threat, Vice President Dick
Cheney said.

He repeated the Bush administration's stance that the United States seeks
to resolve the dispute over Iran's nuclear program through diplomatic means,
but that all options are on the table.

"I think most of the nations in that part of the world believe their security
is supported, if you will, by the United States. They want us to have a major
presence there," Cheney said in an interview with Newsweek magazine,
according to a transcript released by the White House on Sunday.

-snip-

Cheney, asked whether he could see a scenario in which there were air strikes
on Iran, replied: "I'm not going to speculate about ... security action."

-snip-

Full article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070128/us_nm/iran_usa_dc_1
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:49 AM
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1. He really does view this as moving around pieces on Risk game board
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:01 AM
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4. Except that he faces no personal risk.
As always, CheneyCrimeInc makes money no matter who wins/loses or where.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:50 AM
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2. or poker.
but either way, it is a game to him.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:51 AM
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3. I think the 2006 elections sent a strong message
Cheney! SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN!!!
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:03 AM
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5. but he doesn't want to play by the rules
yeah, he does look at it as a game. But he is one of those poor losers- he won't stop until he has no choice. Can we say IMPEACH him already?

We don't need them to start another huge conflict.

They don't want to listen to the election. We may have to have a revolution. Is anyone game?
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Patriought Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:09 AM
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6. I'm having flashbacks...
Doesn't all this sound eerily familiar to the Iraq war? They insisted they wanted to solve the problem through diplomatic means, yet they were already drawing up war plans. Remember the Downing Street memos?
Anybody want to guess how long it'll be before we get the "breaking news" that the Iranians launched a missile at one of our carriers? It worked in the Gulf of Tonkin.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 04:53 PM
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10. Hi Patriought!!
Welcome to DU! :toast:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:47 AM
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7. the carrier will be welcome with flowers strewn on the waters? nt
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:10 PM
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8. Congress needs to take their toys back
Bush and Cheney clearly do not play well with others
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:21 PM
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9. Folks, this has to move to the front of our agenda NOW
Push Democrats in Congress to take this on NOW. Some want to, but others would rather not have to talk about this. It is to the credit of progressive Democrats that opposing an on going American presense inside Iraq is no longer a controversial position for virtually any Democrast to take. Unfortunately, taking a clear position on how the United States should be dealing with Iran still carries "political risks", since many Democrats are still afraid of being seen as soft on security issues. We've been here before friends, in 2002.

Support Democrats, like Kerry and Clark, who are willing to discuss the dangers inherent with another regional military escalation, BEFORE it happens.

I recorded General Clark making these comments while he was campaigning for Democrats in New Hampshire in October:


"We're being set up again, just like we were with Iraq, and what I've found in my life is, generally that if you want a war, you can have one.

Most people are about equally brave, most people will fight. Most people love their families, they love their homes, they believe that whatever they believe in is the single one way to truth, reconciliation and the after life, and most people will fight for it. Most people are not philosophical about it, and whether you're walking into a bar in New York City after the Red Sox have played the Yankees, or whether you're dealing with the Bosnians and the Serbs, or whether you're talking about Christians and Iranians.

People will fight for what they believe in. So if we want a war with a billion Muslims, we can probably have one. I don't think we want one, we certainly don't need one, and we should do everything we can to prevent it."


On that same weekend I also recorded Wes Clark making these comments regarding pending war with Iran. I note that he made these comments BEFORE Democrats retook Congress in November, which Clark was then passionately arguing that we had to do everything in our power to make happen. The threat Clark describes suffered a set back with a Democratic victory, but by no means has it been eliminated. Again, this is transcribed from my own recording:


"I think that we're in a very dangerous position because not only is the clock ticking in North Korea, but the clock is ticking in Iran. The President has basically lined up his statements so that he can not live with the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon, and he has made a half hearted effort at diplomacy. We're not talking with Iran directly. He's made a half hearted effort at diplomacy, I believe, so that diplomacy will fail. And then, his plan is, sometime in the Spring of 2007, which is not so far away, he's going to come on Television, he's going to say:

'My fellow Americans. For 5 years we've watched the evil empire of Iran struggle to prepare nuclear weapons. Although our intelligence is not perfect, we have enough information to assure us that they're making progress.

As I told, and promised you, we will not allow the worst weapons to fall into the hands of the worst people. Iran is a state that supports Terrorists. For the good of humanity they can not be permitted to have nuclear weapons. We've asked our Allies to help, we've gone to the United Nations, we've asked the Iranians to forbear, nothing has worked. There is no option remaining, but to use America's military superiority to address this growing and gathering threat.

As I speak to you tonight, the first bombers are over Tehran. We will not falter, we will not fail, we will not be denied, and America will prevent Iran from having nuclear weapons.

Thank You my fellow Americans'


More recently, following Bush's State of the Union Address, Wes Clark had this response to a FOX news jock:

Alan Colmes: He had some really strong rhetoric tonight about Iran, about the threat from Iran, about terrorists working with Iran. Do you think he is preparing the country for a possible military action toward that country?

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Yes, I do. I think that the…the…the statements about Iran continue to ratchet up the pressure and uh, lay the groundwork for taking action.

Sean Hannity: General Clark

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK:: And I think it’s very dangerous.

Link for video and transcript of Clark's entire appearance:
http://securingamerica.com/node/2163


I really don't want to be on DU listening to all the shock and outrage expressed by members here after Bush attacks Iran,if very few of those same people were willing to pay much attention to that threat now, before it is to late.

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