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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:18 PM Original message |
Clinton now leads in Iowa, New Hamphire, Ohio... |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. what many dont like hearing. she is a political superstar. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. ... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I'm curious about Obama and that "populist" label he's getting |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. We don't need a superstar |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. She's not even a patriot. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. In all honesty, her name makes that possible. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. actually, I subscribe to Chris Bowers' theory at Mydd that it isn't name recognition |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. I disagree. The MSM has promoted Hillary for years as a possible candidate. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. that is selling short the voters in Ohio who are notoriously knowledgeable and fickle... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Ok, let it be said that I sold short the voters of Ohio. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Duly noted. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Thank you. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. More like notoriously moronic. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. We are discussing the Iowa Dem caucus. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. "Selling Ohio's voters short" is "discussing the Iowa Dem Caucus"? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. yeah, because in the context of this thread, the "voters" refers to the Iowa caucus |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:36 PM Original message |
O c'mon. You mentioned Ohio specifically. However Iowa helped elect |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
94. oh, see, that's because in post 17 I typed "Ohio" but should have typed "Iowa." |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Well, then let it be said that I sold the voters of "IOWA" short. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
77. All of my Buckeye buddies were absolutely fed up with Taft and Noe and Blackwell |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. but rightly so with hillary. she has a long history back to the nixon |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
84. We have other senators running along with Governor -Tom Vilsack. |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. i read the list. its hillary and obama unless gore jumps in. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. And HRC and Obama don't have a chance in the general election. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 02:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
103. I agree, although I think that name recognition certainly helps |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Where is the sample size, margin of error |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. It's there |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Polls in February 2007 don't mean crap |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. unless they say what you want them to say. : O |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. True |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
108. No...they actually don't mean shit. EOM |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. they mean only what |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I don't know |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. wyldwolf.. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The Ohio numbers came at the end of last week |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. ah thanks |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. Ugh to Hillary. And Vilsack needs to get out now |
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KingofNewOrleans (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Don't know how Vilsack will do |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. And I grant him permission to save his time and money |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. LOL. What a joke! She is being forced on us by the media and some in our party. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. "Some in our Party" |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #27 |
102. No, I am criticizing party leaders who are trying to make sure she remains the |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
24. Hillary BARF |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Edwards is going to fade.. and fast! |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
112. his transformation is likable to very many |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. Reminds me of Lieberman in 03 |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. as Bowers explained at MyDD, a very different situation |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
29. One poll a year out, sheesh who cares? n/t |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I guarantee |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. They matter right now, yes. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. again |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Depends on the media source. Cable news channels.... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I disagree |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. It seems the cable news media is all but obsessed about picking.... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. again |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I have no problem with people getting more air time. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Nope |
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Larry in KC (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Wow, that reminds me of "Broadcast News"! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
98. If your candidate has no clue as to how to handle |
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Larry in KC (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #98 |
105. Do you think it's the most important qualification for the office? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Nope |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
79. That's what everyone losing in the polls says. |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Wouldn't it be nice if we had ONE "poll thread" a month on here? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. no thanks |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. ARG |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. They do seem to be the outlier. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
38. Gephardt was kicking some ass in Feb. 2003 in Iowa |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. Do you happen to have a link to that poll? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. Here's an interesting analysis regarding name recognition... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. We've actually been discussing Bower's analysis down thread. |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
39. Well.. I know Hillary isn't Wyldwolf's 1st choice, so I'll let this poll slide.. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. you're right but polls are newsworthy. I promise to post them even it your fav is leading |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. 'Cept I don't really have a fav yet... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. mine is in single digits in the polls... |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Who is your favorite, wyldwolf? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Richardson |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Hmmmm..... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. That MyDD article you love...says Clinton does not have highest name recognition. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. yeah, so? I would say the way you're spinning it is, in your words, "pure BS" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Hillary is ...."inevitable". Repeat after me, ww. "Inevitable." |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I would agree at this point. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. The only place |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. No, nothing is inevitable. Once she scores the nomination |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. You think I am pushing for Hillary? No, I am not. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Yeah go Kucinich the 900lb gorrilla no one wants to take on |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. The argument is over the impact of name recognition not whose highest |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. A vote is a vote. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Gore's not running yet or maybe never. |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. don't you mean she IS a machine? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Read the article as to why he mentions Gore |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Gore has not announced. Period. Can't put him in polls. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. he is in every poll. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Gore is still polled about.. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I love Gore. You totally missed my point. Thanks for that. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. You had a point? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. No, I am too ignorant to have a point. |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
76. w00t! |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. wow! an honest to goodness Hillary supporter |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Tell me about it. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. Placebo, I'd agree. |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Yup, debates too. |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
86. For fun, you should check out the polls from February 2003. It looked like |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. The name recognition, Lieberman memes are dead |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I think otherwise. You may want to read some 2003 archives. Here's one of many: |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Roger Simon? C'mon now. |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Read any February 2003 poll you want. Here's a Quinnipiac poll: |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. So basically you ignored the post about Chris Bowers' analysis |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. I didn't ignore it, I was unpersuaded by it. Also, I never said Hillary = Lieberman. I'm denigrating |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
97. Wow, Edwards and Obama aren't even close to her today. nt |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
99. The only problem I see with all these Clinton threads, is I immediately think of BILL |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
100. Hill power is gonna roll that Iowa snowball into the White House. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
104. I've written it a dozen times on DU: Clinton will be our next president |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
109. We're talking about BILL Clinton, right? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. as has been posted repeatedly in this thread and others, the name recognition meme... |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. According to YOU it is. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. (snicker) Right... |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
114. ..but not California |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. If you don't know who leads in CA at the moment, how can you say with certainty it isn't Hillary? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
116. It's early. Remember, your boy lieberman once led 2004. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. three points for you, and you know what they are! LOL! |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
120. I gotta hope people come to their senses before the primaries |
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