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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:22 PM
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Truth Exposed at Senate Armed Services Hearing
By David Swanson

The Senate Armed Services Committee held a hearing today at which the Inspector General of the Pentagon, Thomas Gimble, testified that – and I'm loosely paraphrasing – the Iraq War was launched on a pack of lies.

Gimble has produced a report < http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/18368 > documenting the actions of the Office of Special Plans, which included the gathering of "intelligence" and the presenting of that "intelligence" to top administration officials. The Pentagon is not an agency authorized to gather intelligence, and no agency is authorized to do that sort of work without informing the Congress.

Chairman Carl Levin called the hearing, and for much of it was the only Democrat present. Most of the Democrats on the Committee never showed. Claire McCaskill (D., Mo.) and James Webb (D., Va.) participated briefly. Hillary Clinton (D., N.Y.) never showed, and her office said she was in New York, according to Medea Benjamin, a CoFounder of Code Pink and my main source for what happened today.

James Inhofe (R., Okl.) participated briefly, but for a long time, there were only four committee members present, according to Medea: Levin and John Warner (R., Va.), Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), and Saxby Chambliss (R., Ga.). This lopsided attendance was reflected in the print media coverage < http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/18384 >, and will probably show up on the television reports.

"Levin was fabulous," Medea said. She and Lori Perdue, who both broke down crying during the hearing (see below), gave me an account after the committee had gone into closed session. "Levin was really tough, charged, determined. But most of the Democrats were missing in action. Three Republicans, Sessions, Warner, and Chambliss grilled Gimble." This grilling, Medea explained, was all in defense of the work of Doug Feith and the Office of Special Plans, a defense that apparently used some strangely contorted arguments. The grilling was only countered by Levin with a little help by Webb and a short assist by McCaskill.

McCaskill asked whether the intelligence agencies that legitimately gather intelligence shouldn't carry more weight than an office assigned only to analyze it. But the Republicans, Medea said, kept insisting that nothing illegal had been done, and that the Inspector General's report had been poorly conducted. He had failed to interview Stephen Hadley or Condoleezza Rice. Gimble countered that Hadley had refused to be interviewed and that as the IG for the "Defense" Department he had no authority over Rice. Levin then spoke up with the most encouraging comment of the day: We will make sure they come, he said. If there is any information that you want, we'll get it!

Let the subpoenas fly!

Medea and Dave Barrows managed to get themselves thrown out of the hearing today. Sessions was busy alleging that nothing was wrong with an alternative intelligence operation, especially considering how flawed the work of the intelligence community has been. Are you insinuating, he asked, that intelligence was misused on purpose to take us to war?

Medea said that she and Dave jumped up and said Yes, it was lies to take us to war.

Somehow, that got them thrown out, but not before Medea and Lori broke down sobbing with satisfaction when Levin that nothing could be more devastating than using alternative intelligence to decide whether we go to war or not….It's" as critical as anything I've seen," Levin concluded. He asked Gimble if the work of Feith's office had affected the public's understanding of why we needed to go to war. Gimble replied in the affirmative.

But, said Medea, Sessions kept insisting that the information from Feith's office had forced the intelligence community to go back and look at things and do a better job. And Gimble kept replying that, no, it had not changed the conclusions of the intelligence community. And, in a dramatic twist of revisionist history, Sessions brushed it all off by claiming that none of this had anything to do with why we'd gone to war anyway, that we'd gone because Iraq was supposedly violating UN resolutions and shooting down US planes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: we need a hearing on President Bush's proposal to try to get Iraq to shoot down a plane, something Iraq – like Iran now – was then refraining from doing: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/whitehousememo

There was discussion in the hearing of this slideshow presentation produced by Feith and his Feith-based intelligence squad: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10652305/site/newsweek/

The first slide, the one criticizing the work of the intelligence community was removed when the presentation was made to the intelligence community. Gimble said that the CIA disagreed with half of the 28 points Feith made. Republicans latched onto that to claim that the other half must have been useful information. Gimble said that it was not, and that it amounted to a one-sided presentation with no required balance.

However, Gimble claimed that a process had been in place to prevent this sort of behavior, and that the process had been disregarded. McCaskill asked whether such a thing might not happen again, and Gimble replied that he did not think it would. Yet we know that Feith's work was authorized by Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, and we have strong reason to believe Cheney was behind it. Last time I checked Cheney was still the Vice President and Levin had yet to subpoena anyof those three.

Call Senator Carl Levin's office and thank and encourage him: (202) 224-6221.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:28 PM
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1. They said we were lied to but, what I heard after that on the
T.V. news was so upsetting. They reported that these lies were not illigal... What the world?
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oldtimecanuk Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:31 PM
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2. WTF is with these Democrats.... If your on a damn...
committee and having a meeting as important as this.... then be there for christ sake..... I just don't understand this BS.... On Nov. 7th. the people told the Democrats what they wanted, now lets Damn well do the Peoples Business.

ww
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:31 PM
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11. I think you've hit upon a new bumper sticker idea!
Dammit, Dems, Just Do It!!!
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:43 PM
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14. I'll take one KansDem......
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oldtimecanuk Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:41 PM
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3. I want to see Chairman Carl Levin ratchet this up even higher...
This will fall nicely into Congressman Conyers area of Downing Street Memos..... And that this war was planned long before these guys said it was... Should get very interesting.

ww
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:43 PM
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4. I've tried twice to respond to this.
I've deleted both. I will only say to sum up both attempts... I'm so mad, I think it's unhealthy. Maybe time for a short break.
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oldtimecanuk Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:44 PM
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5. davidswanson, thanks so much for the information... eom
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:55 PM
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6. I just called Sen. Levin's office....
left a message asking him to ratchet up the hearings. Everybody take the time...won't take but 30 seconds, and might help bring peace.

That's not too much to ask.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:57 PM
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7. "We never know where hearings will lead." ~ Nancy Pelosi
Remember that statement.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:07 PM
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8. I'm only hearing about Anna Nicole Smith
Why report on the Levin's hearing when a blond has died

:sarcasm:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:35 PM
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12. Ahhh, but many may go to C-span to get away from it
and learn something. Not all bad I guess?

Hope to see this hearing on c-span.

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PLF Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:16 PM
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9. This is something every american should know about.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:16 PM
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10. I called my Senator's local office
Sen. Bill Nelson who is on the committee. The staffer had no idea if he was there (I suggested I thought he wasn't), or if he had issued a statement on the IG report. I suspect she had no clue what I was talking about. She said she would pass along my message that I hope he shows up at future hearings.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:42 PM
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13. Was this IG report know about in time to attend Levin's hearing?
Was this a regular meeting of the Senate Arms Service Committee or specially called? Why so few Dems attending?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:48 PM
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15. Why so few Dem senators? There's a lot of people on the committee...
time to call them all and make them earn their pay raise!

http://armed-services.senate.gov/members.htm

FULL COMMITTEE MEMBERS

DEMOCRATS

Carl Levin (Michigan)
Chairman

Edward M. Kennedy (Massachusetts)
Robert C. Byrd (West Virginia)
Joseph I. Lieberman (Connecticut)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Daniel K. Akaka (Hawaii)
Bill Nelson (Florida)
E. Benjamin Nelson (Nebraska)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (New York)
Mark L. Pryor (Arkansas)
Jim Webb (Virginia)
Claire McCaskill (Missouri)

REPUBLICANS

John McCain (Arizona)
Ranking Member

John W. Warner (Virginia)
James M. Inhofe (Oklahoma)
Jeff Sessions (Alabama)
Susan M. Collins (Maine)
John Ensign (Nevada)
Saxby Chambliss (Georgia)
Lindsey O. Graham (South Carolina)
Elizabeth Dole (North Carolina)
John Cornyn (Texas)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Mel Martinez (Florida)


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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 04:05 PM
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16. Sheesh, I forgot, it's Friday, they have Fridays off I see.
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 04:06 PM by lyonn
Levin is a big enough man to carry the meeting thank goodness! At least Webb and McCaskill attended.

Edit: How often will they have Gimble there to testify tho?
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:51 PM
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17. Sessions and Inhofe need to STFU!
What a couple of weasels! BTW, why was Pat Roberts dragging his feet so much on the Phase II intel report? Doesn't that give us probable cause to believe he's hiding something? We just need to do ethics probes of the whole damn Republican Party!
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:31 AM
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18. . . .
:kick:

dp
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 01:47 PM
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19. kcik
(And fuck you, Hillary.)
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 04:09 PM
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20. Thanks for posting this
Excellent post. Thanks for posting it. And thanks for all the links. My only regret is arriving too late to vote for this. (Consider me your 21st vote.)

Any ideas about what was contained in the blacked out parts of the 5-page Working Paper Draft? The black-outs are very conveniently located.
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