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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:40 PM
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2/3 Americans oppose cutting funding for troops; 60% oppose cutting funding for escalation.
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 07:41 PM by Clarkie1
Two-thirds of those questioned oppose cutting money for the troops and 60 percent are against cutting money intended just for the additional troops.

Nearly half of Democrats oppose cutting money for the additional troops and almost two-thirds of those who know someone who has served in Iraq oppose that idea.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17188602/

How does this impact Democratic strategy going forward? What do you think should be the "next move" of the Congress? (I realize this will depend on how the situation changes...or does not change, going forward).
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:42 PM
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1. They need to legally de-authorize the war...
it is subject to veto, but it can't be turned around as not supporting the troops.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:42 PM
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2. I think the cut the funding people have to do a better job making their case.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:55 PM
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3. Can fund certain things and refuse to fund others?
Like maybe continue supplying troops there, but refuse to fund the expense of sending additional troops? I'm obviously ignorant of how to avoid putting the troops in danger by not providing necessary items for protection and support. Anyone know?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:57 PM
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4. I believe a very small percentage of Americans would oppose cutting funds on War Profiteering. n/t
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:58 PM
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5. Was there not a poll last week that showed support for defunding
the escalation?
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:59 PM
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6. Fox poll says the opposite, Americans oppose funding for surge
Fox News Poll: Majority Of Americans Would Vote To Defund Escalation
By Eric Kleefeld |

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/feb/15/fox_news_poll_americans_would_vote_to_de_fund_escalation


Here are some numbers to consider for Dems who fear getting attacked for
cutting off funding for the "surge": A new poll finds that an
astonishing 54% of Americans would vote to cut off funding for
escalation if they were in Congress. What's more, the new poll was done
by Fox News. The survey asked: "If you were a member of Congress, how
would you vote specifically on increasing U.S. troop levels in Iraq —
would you vote for or against funding the increase in troops?" Only 37%
said they would vote for funding. Among Independents, the numbers were
even more striking: 62% were against funding, and only 30% for funding.
If Congressional Democrats do move to defund escalation, a majority of
Americans would be on their side.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 08:00 PM
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7. Unless this is part of a PR scheme to confuse the Democrats.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 08:03 PM
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8. No funds are being cut - Murtha just demands training plus equipement before they go over n/t
n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:34 PM
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14. Right. Murtha found exactly the right tactic---simply making the troops ready does the trick
After all, the main problem with the surge is that it will overwhelm the personnel on the ground, stretch them too thin and wear them out until they start making fatal errors--either killing some civilians needlessly or getting killed themselves.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 08:07 PM
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9. Gee they love spin!
(Results from early January in parentheses)

Would you favor or oppose sending more troops to Iraq?

_Favor, 35 percent (26)

_Oppose, 63 percent (70)

_Not sure, 2 percent (4)

___

Do you think the war in Iraq is ...

_A worthy cause, 39 percent

_A hopeless cause, 56 percent

_Both equally (volunteered), 2 percent

_Neither (volunteered), 2 percent

_Not sure, 1 percent

___

Would you favor or oppose Congress cutting all funding for the Iraq war?

_Favor, 29 percent

_Oppose, 68 percent

_Not sure, 3 percent

___

Would you favor or oppose Congress cutting funding for the additional troops
President Bush wants to send to Iraq?

_Favor, 38 percent

_Oppose, 60 percent

_Not sure, 2 percent

___

(Results from early January in parentheses)

Do you think sending more troops to Iraq would help stabilize the situation there, or not?

_Yes, 32 percent (25)

_No, 64 percent (70)

_Not sure, 4 percent (5)

more...


Americans oppose the surge (63%), believe it will not stabilize Iraq (64%), and most important, believe the war is a hopeless cause (56%).

End the war.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 08:14 PM
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10. gee maybe the poll asked a deliberately slanted question.
It is not about cutting off funds for 'the troops' it is about cutting off funds for 'the war'.

The again the article cited does not actually print the question asked.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 08:52 PM
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11. Here's the important part of the poll
"WASHINGTON - President Bush faces widespread opposition to the troop buildup in Iraq, though he has gained support over the past month, an AP-Ipsos poll found.

The president has nudged support for the troop increase to 35 percent from 26 percent in early January. Sixty-three percent of those surveyed still oppose the increase.

The increased support came from some of Bush's core supporters -- Republicans, men, whites, suburbanites and people with higher incomes."


As for the other stat -- probably a heavily slanted question:

Like:

1) I want to join the Terrorists
2) I am an appeaser
3) I won't give the troops a dime
4) I oppose cutting money for the 'surge'

Which statement most closely represents your views: 1, 2, 3, or 4
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:05 PM
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12. A student who has lived in the U.S. said today
You know, I REALLY DO LIKE Americans, its just that they're so uninformed or simply STUPID.
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:18 PM
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13. With numbers like that, I think this grandstanding will come back to bite us big time. n/t
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