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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:23 PM
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Nader will get in long before the nomination is decided, regardless of
who our candidate is. Naming HRC as his motivation is a smoke screen for his obsession with free money,ie matching funds. This is a guy who has a family member manage his bills, because he can not face the fact that he has to pay for the phone, electric, and services such as furnace repairs, plumbers etc. Like a moth is attracted to a lite, Nader can't bypass an election campaign.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:26 PM
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1. I agree 100% Nader will run because he is Nader and he will find something
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 10:27 PM by wakeme2008
wrong with every Dem candidate.

IE Nader will run because Obama's smoke.....
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:31 PM
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2. I'll never understand...
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 10:34 PM by GainesT1958
Why he suddenly channeled his enormous ego, which before had always led him to joust with major coporations in his consumer protection battles, into presidential politics. He did far more good for this nation by protecting its citizens against dangerous and shoddy merchandise, and the unscrupulous companies who sell it. It's as if he has little left to live for other than to try and bring about the Democratic Party's demise, while being completely oblivious to the fact that he's bringing down the rights and freedoms of the very people he spent all those years protecting as a result.

Give it up, Ralphie boy--and go back to doing us consumers some REAL good!

B-)
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:35 PM
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3. I used to think the same thing, but then...
...my dad told me about when he was in college, he went and saw Nader speak somewhere in like 1970 or 1971 or something, and was very enthusiastic about seeing him, and left thinking he was crazy.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:38 PM
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4. You put that very well.
I couldn't have said it better. What a shame and what a waste of what was once a shining light on the Progressive side.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:54 PM
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5. This will be a test of Nader's true motives. n/t
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 01:49 AM
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8. Do you have a link
to Ralph's true motives???

We'd like to check that site...
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newburgh Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:54 PM
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6. More of the same ole DU blame game!
Hello, it was the Supremes that did the Dems in, in 2000, not Nader. Like with Iraq and support for the troops, this issue needs to be FRAMED the correct way or you're playing right into the Rovian machine. Y'all sound like a bunch of whiny crybabies with a reflux problem. I guess the voters who voted against LIEberman as VP are bad people and Nader was a jerk for messing up the duopolistic "free" political system. Boohoo. If Nader did win, he would have fought for more than just the meager consumer-level corporate greed and concentrated on the real menace: the military industrial complex/war profiteers like Halliburton, KBR, etal. No Dems will ever have the guts to cut THAT hand that feeds them.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:58 PM
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7. Is that you Ralph??? n/t
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:04 AM
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10. eh, nader could not win; he could only help bush win.
people blame nader cuz its nader's fault.
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newburgh Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:58 AM
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11. More concise evaluation from another blog. Again, stop whining....
"It is so easy to buy into the Nader 2000 myth.

Nine million Democrats voted for Bush, and less than half of the 3 million Nader voters were Democrats.

Had Nader not run, Bush would have won by more in Florida. CNN's exit poll showed Bush at 49 percent and Gore at 47 percent, with 2 percent not voting in a hypothetical Nader-less Florida race.

The individual who did the most harm to Gore (aside from himself) was Bill Clinton. If Gore had distanced himself from the Clinton moral miasma he would probably be president today.

Clinton hurt in other ways, most notably in the damage his administration did to other Democratic officeholders, again something Democrats don't want to face. During the Clinton administration, Democrats lost over 1,200 state legislative seats. Further, the Democrats lost control of 9 legislatures and for the first time since 1954 the GOP controlled more state legislatures than the Democrats. In addition, the GOP won almost more than 40 seats in the House, 8 in the Senate, 11 governorships and 439 Democratic officeholders switched to the Democratic Party. Only three Republicans went the other way. In short, the Clinton administration was a disaster for the Democrats.

The reason Bush “won”: Ninety thousand African Americans were illegally and intentionally stricken from the voter rolls in Florida under the guise of felon disenfranchisement."
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 02:37 AM
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9. I hope he gets a good bout of Salmonella. Feed him some peanut butter.
I swear I'd put a spider in his food if I served him in a restaurant.
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