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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:54 AM Original message |
Clinton, Obama and Edwards - They ALL PAY to PLAY! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. In 6 months, the 'important' people will change. Forget about it. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This is scary to me.....that money buys votes in this really transparent way! |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Be real..... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I understand that this is the program....how it works..... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. That's pretty much par for the course. And wait till you see the GOP dough. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Wow.....and then faking like someone's endorsing you cause they like you..... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Money always talks. The guy wasn't choosing between a Democrat, a Libertarian, a Whig and a |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Got it! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I don't know anyone who admits to endorsing the practice. They all sigh and call it a necessary |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. but if he is a state senator, and he is selling his endorsement to the highest |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
99. Problem for the this is evil crowd is that he is not selling his vote to highest offer - AP says |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Hi Frenchie! |
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malikstein (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. The two greatest obstacles to democracy: |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
5. I just read that Hillary hired H. Reid's son as Harry is neutral and won't endorse her. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. He won't endorse ANYONE. Politicians who have senior leadership roles are well advised to |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Maybe Reid's son like his father likes all of the candidates..... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. That's exactly right. And I'll bet it's a respectable salary, too. The average schmo doesn't have |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. God I wish Hillary would go away. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
45. Hillary should not get all the heat on this |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
11. OK, I'm just thinking now.....since it appears that there is a lot more |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Hillary/Bayh ticket has wide appeal |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. ROFL! |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
69. No Dem is going to win any state that was once run by the KKK |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Either they got a little money and are sitting on it, or they got almost nothing and their prospects |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Interesting....thanks! |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's interesting that Edwards was turned down |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Yes....but move along........ nothing to see here..... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Well, here's the sad fact. Not enough Americans give a shit. That's the real deal. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I am not angry...I am surprised and shocked how easily this is all |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. This is old, but it describes 'bundling' very well. That's the ticket, you see |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Frenchie, this is just getting tiresome. Now you're shocked there's gambling in Casablanca. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. And you need to face the reality that Edwards is a consumate |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Why do you sling this shit so easily? |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Defend Edwards if that is your goal |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I will defend ALL Democrats against the smears and assaults being hurled |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
84. Actually, I rarely sling shit at all. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. You know - there are other people to vote for besides Dems |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. It depends on the state, and the circumstances, but you might expect them to do these sorts of |
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benny05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
26. Nice Try FC |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. This is a non-story...unless you want be 'shocked, shocked I tell you' |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Edwards should demand a retraction |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
100. LOL - As the AP noted - 5 candidates were trying to both hire Jackson & get endorsement n/t |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Yes and it's disgusting |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. true - my error in reading a different tone than what was meant - sorry. n/t |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. No prob |
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jen4clark (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
95. I think it IS the media choosing |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. It is ok for some Dems, right? |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. sorry, maybe I'm a little dense this morning, but I don't understand |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Read what the poster writes here. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. why the nasty tone, brother |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. What's nasty? |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. 'blind', 'can't help you', this is nasty |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. The linked article clearly states Edwards' involvement. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. I don't think pay to play is a strength |
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benny05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. I'm game |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. When was your pension cut? |
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benny05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I hear what you are saying |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
29. I'm an orignal Clarkie on DU, too, FC. But I have the honesty to admit.. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. There's something to that, I agree |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. you may be right about that |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. totally agree |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. You mean he isn't a money whore. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. No, I mean he isn't a player. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I don't believe in elves |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Apparently Clark2008 does. How else to explain that large sum of money... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Heh |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. oops! |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
87. No - you just missed my point. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
85. I meant he didn't pay people to endorse him. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. and you know this how? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. I worked for his campaign. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. WOW! So did I... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
30. What's funny about this |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Not necessarily. |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
36. presumably these emails were provided by Obama |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Or given by Jackson to the Clinton campaign |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
72. Good for whoever leaked |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
37. "enough to make a Negro turn black" |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
47. Stay tuned... the denouement continues as this |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. its a cuththroat game and they have the courage to play...unlike some. nt. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
57. For cryin' out loud. You'd think Wes Clark was the 2nd coming. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Wrong. Donors provide the money and how each candidate |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. You said this about Clark, I didn't. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. ROFLMAO. Me, unbiased? Meow, Frenchie Cat! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. Well, I 'm learning more and more everyday....and now understand |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Martyrdom not a good look for you |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Julie - what you said! nt |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Ditto for you......attack me by jumping on to someone elses silly post denounce me... why don't you! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Hypotheticals on how I would respond is a silly way of justifying |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. How is this a Faux News style attack? |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
80. Supercilious sanctimony is not a good look for you. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. LOL. I love seeing folks call her out. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Which is all that you can do, is love that.....meanwhile John Edwards and the others are the |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
90. You conveniently didn't read what I said to you, either.. |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #90 |
97. You've forgotten one of the cardinal rules at DU again |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
68. It's really a damn shame that the SCOTUS ruled spending caps unconstitutional |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
71. SC will be a huge battle: Obama, Hillary, and Edwards are all seemingly popular there. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
79. This is a corrupt practice more suitable for a whore house than the White House |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. A sensible statement |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
89. The ugly and very influential side of politics... |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
93. I have a feeling this endorsement declined in value |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Sounds like it according to this article..... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I wonder if Jackson was among those Black pastors opposed to marriage rights for LGBTs |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. I'm curious as to jackson's position on gay marriage - but record shows strong gay support in past |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
105. Frenchie...I have a hard time thinking a "General" will solve our |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
106. I think the bulk of everyone's anger and scorn should be directed towards Darrell Jackson & his ilk. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. More than enough scorn-worthy players here |
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