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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:37 PM
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Gore rules out bid for US White House in 2008
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Former US vice president Al Gore has ruled out a bid for the White House in the 2008 elections and will carry on his fight against global climate change.

"I have no intention to run for president," Gore said in an interview conducted in Los Angeles and broadcast Thursday by the BBC.

"I can't imagine in any circumstance to run for office again," said the former Democratic vice president under then-president Bill Clinton.

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More at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070216/ts_alt_afp/usvote2008democrat
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:38 PM
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1. Oh man
:(
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:39 PM
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2. Same thing he's been saying for months. It rules out nothing. NT
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:18 AM
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16. Show me where he's said "I have no intention to run for president" before?
Or "I can't imagine in any circumstance to run for office again,"

The only reason he has kept it alive is to generate extra attention for global warming, which is a smart thing to do obviously. He STILL won't come out and say "no, I won't run" because he still wants to milk attention for global warming - as he should - but these words are code to Dems that he's not going to be running.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:58 AM
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27. Every article about him for months uses that same phrase....go
over to GD Politics and scroll and you will see about five different articles posting the same Non-Denial, Denial.

He's going to come in late...wait and see.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:53 PM
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70. I've seen him say he has no "plans" to run. Never this kind of language before though.
saying "no intention" and "can't imagine any circumstance" is pretty strong stuff.

He's not giving an outright "no" because it keeps the media more interested in him and what he's doing. Every time he gets an accolade the media frames it with the Presidential possibility. I think folks in the know (like you and me) should realize he's not running.

But hey, PM me if he does run and I will perform some act of contrition that we both feel is suitable. Perhaps a post expousing on your genious and my idiocy?
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:39 PM
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3. NOOOOOO :(
:cry:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:44 PM
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6. He has been saying the same thing for months
He is either waiting for the perfect time or he is an idiot.

We shall see.... and I'm hoping for the perfect time.

He knows millions want him in the WH
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:21 AM
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:58 AM
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28. Oh, come on! Do you know what a toll running for high office takes?
I wonder who in their right mind would put themselves through that? He surely doesn't deserve to be called an idiot.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:47 AM
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34. Yes he has, this is nothing new. He is purposely leaving the door open.
There's a reason for that.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:40 PM
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4. Not exactly breaking news.
We've have plenty of threads on this interview alone.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:41 PM
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5. smart move---
it is STILL too early!!!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:45 PM
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7. No new news
but I think it's pretty obvious, he's not interested in running again...

It's time for some of us to look at other candidates...
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:46 PM
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8. We are fucked.
Do you hear that Al Gore? Unless you are reelected to POTUS, your climate change dabblings are just that. If you really took these things seriously, you would keep it open.

No potential candidate has the passion AND the experience to rebuild our world image after the * masquerade.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:34 AM
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:38 AM
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21. You're right. I'm sorry, but we're still fucked.
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 01:41 AM by countmyvote4real
I want Al Gore to be POTUS.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:33 AM
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36. His climate change work is just "dabblings" if he doesn't do what you want?
Wow, the arrogance of some here is unbelievable.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:48 PM
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9. What about the "wait til September" deal?
Was that a direct quote? Or a Donna Brazile fantasy?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:50 PM
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10. The quotes above do not rule out anything happening in September.
It's called a "non-denial denial."
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:55 PM
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13. Ah, yes, the "candidacy game"
Deny, deny, deny, deny...wait a minute, I'm reconsidering.

Silly me.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:57 AM
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40. It was not a direct quote
My guess is it was put out by certain people looking for attention. That certainly fits Donna Brazile, who needs to stay far away from Mr. Gore.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:30 PM
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48. Who said it was? NT
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:14 PM
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50. I was answering a question n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 03:19 PM by RestoreGore
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:21 PM
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53. Ah, the soul of wisdom and tact. Fast editing!
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 03:22 PM by NYCGirl
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:24 PM
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55. Ok, I'll put it back
Who was talking to you anyway? It was not a direct quote which was the answer to the question asked. No need for your interjection.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:32 PM
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59. And you wanted to give Gore's presentation? Gee, and they turned you down?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:39 PM
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61. Typical
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 03:45 PM by RestoreGore
I was not picked for this round along with over 2000 others who applied because of the response (and was told my application was exemplary but they just couldn't take everyone) and I can still do the slideshow because I know it forwards and backwards, and actually have spoken to a few people on my own. So hopefully if they continue it this year I will apply again, so your attempt to, I don't know, embarrass me? because you didn't like my last reply is really juvenile. At least I applied and I am still out here working on this. What are you doing besides "cheerleading" here like a lovestruck teenager? You know what, on second thought don't answer that.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:53 PM
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11. Latest Breaking News? From Friday?
....and the things he said in that article are the things he's been saying for months, none of them with a definitive "no."
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:54 PM
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12. The press keeps getting lazier and lazier. NT
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:00 AM
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14. As much as I hate to say it that does sound like a no go for Gore 2008...
unless General Clark and/or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. can pull off a miracle and a half billion $$$ falls off the the trees into their campaigns -- it looks like a Repuke has won in 2008.

I with regret predict a Repuke has already won in 2008, but the Dems will keep the House.


Focus on 2016 -- our next chance to win the Presidency.

Those DLC types were seriously upset about the Libs putting Dean in as DNC chair, so they gave us Hillary.

______________________________________

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy,_Jr.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:15 AM
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15. THANKYOU AL!
That was the best decision you could have made.

I look forward to watching and joining in your work to save our planet.

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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:23 AM
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19. He won't run again for good reason, and he is right. Think about this:
Why, he thinks, should he now take on the filthy, dirty duty of cleaning up the mess left by a man he rightfully, legally defeated but for a preverse judicial coup d'etat?
and that after serving with a man whose hijinks made it possible for even a RETARD from Texas to have a chance of "beating" him.

He fucked up on Kyoto, so he wants to redeem himself on that score as Clinton has tried to redeem himself for his numerous international shortcomings by doing AIDS stuff.

No, it's over for Al, he has decided it is his destiny.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:04 AM
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41. I think those who made this mess should clean it
I personally don't understand how some see the presidency of this country as honorable anymore. It is nothing but a corporate position at the head of a corporate military conglomerate that dictates policy over people. What good does it do to place a good man there if he cannot break hold of that and becomes corrupted from it? I think Mr. Gore transcends it and certainly doesn't deserve to go through that crap, especially when people on the whole in this country are still too distracted to even give a damn. He was part of "that" system for a quarter century and I hope he has that long or longer to now do as he chooses out here to effect positive change in the world. I am sure going to enjoy helping him do that!
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:32 PM
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45. Hillary should take on the clean-up. She played a part in how we got here.
If she does it right (and I am not wrong about how the American people will easily swallow the Repub ways of taking her out) and makes the noise and the moves onw would need to make, she'll be a one-termer.
I wouldn't vote for her though.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:37 AM
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20. Al knows how to make sentences that leave him maximum elbow room
in the political game.

If he jumps in, he's in. If not, he isn't.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:52 AM
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39. Al Gore is not a political gameplayer
He even claimed politics was his "former" occupation. I say, good for him. Politics is a corrupt, dirty, BS game. He is too good for it and I am so grateful he will remain out here to do so much more than he could strangled by that BS system.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:22 PM
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44. I wish him true luck on that quest, because we would all thrive in
an environment which made it more likely.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:15 PM
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51. No doubt about that n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:31 AM
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22. if we have to draft him, then we have to draft him . . .
I do not believe for one minute that Gore would not respond to a genuine outpouring of interest and support on the part of the American people . . . and I believe that there is a wellspring of support just waiting to be tapped . . .
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:03 AM
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23. This article is three days old.
Gore repeated his usual statement on non-candidacy word-for-word.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:45 AM
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24. LATEST BREAKING NEWS: Gore is not G.W. Bush.
He knows his United States history.

If he wants out of the race, he will quote General William Tecumseh Sherman and say, “If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”



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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:31 AM
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42. Exactly.
He has made no move to shutdown the draft Gore movement like in 2002, nor has he endorsed another candidate, nor has he done a Sherman or a Johnson.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:49 AM
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25. this sounds like a quote from months ago
not news - not a Shermanesque statement - not giving up hope
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:14 AM
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26. Join our DU - Al Gore 2008 Group
Anyone who is interested in drafting Al Gore or would like to see Al Gore be restored to his rightful place in history, please join in our Al Gore 2008.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=260

We discuss the latest news on Gore, meetups around the country, strategy on getting him to run. We would love your input.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:46 AM
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38. Drafts don't happen in the military/ industrial complex
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 10:47 AM by RestoreGore
Mr. Gore knows that and stated it himself on Larry King last year, and some of us know it based on experience. Why do you think he refused it in 2004? This also isn't about him as he has stated multiple times as well. He is doing the greatest thing he has ever done in his life, and yet, people still don't think it is good enough.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:20 PM
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43. Where can I find that, in the Delusional Groups portion of the board?
even more delusional than those who haven't chanmged from "Kerry 2008", and the like, screen names
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:18 AM
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29. Just remember the little engine that could:
I think I won't, I think I won't. I think I won't-I did!
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rolandking Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:20 AM
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30. Gore
Well, that's good. Not that he could have won anyway.
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fidgeting wildly Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:57 AM
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35. WTF?
Care to elaborate on your thoughts? If memory serves, he did win in 2000. I see no reason why he couldn't win again, if he chose to run.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:23 AM
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31. Bad news for me...
I wanted Gore to run very badly. Now, no candidate interest me at all. Sad that a country this large has such poor choices from both parties.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:46 AM
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32. I wish it was 2000 again.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:02 AM
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33. He's moving mountains as a private citizen.
I'm not eager to start gnashing my teeth.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:45 AM
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37. Yes he does, DUrs need to get a grip. He's more powerful w/his side show
chipping away at the stench of an oil/coal industry than he would as President of the US.

MSM dances to the highest bidder where propaganda molds the thoughts of the masses.

Americans have to stand up for AMERICA long before they should expect anyone as honorable as Gore
to run for president.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:29 PM
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47. Yes, as we know, the President of the United States has NO power to get things done.
:eyes:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:18 PM
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52. And SO much was done on this in previous years by presidents.
Show us the legislation on climate change in previous administrations... and remember, Al Gore has been talking about this for THIRTY years to those same people. I think if you are going to continue to claim this you need to start backing it up.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:23 PM
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54. Depends on the president, doesn't it? NT
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:30 PM
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56. You can't do it can you?
That's because nothing of substance was done, even with Clinton for eight years with Al Gore talking about this. As Mr. Gore already mentioned as well, he could get only one Senator to sign on to Kyoto. Ergo, his work out here. Again, if you are going to continue using that line you need to start backing it up and proving your theory. There will never be effective legislation regardless of who is is there unless PEOPLE change their habits and come to a point where THEY demand it. It does not work top to bottom. This can ONLY work bottom to top.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:31 PM
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57. President Gore can do it.
:patriot:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:32 PM
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58. You're hopeless n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:32 PM
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60. No, you're the one without hope. NT
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:48 PM
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62. Don't worry, it is a done deal.
He will announce in Sept, after he has created a groundswell of support.

You just need to look at the actual facts to make this determination.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:21 PM
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67. Have you changed your light bulbs yet?

How hypocritical of you. You can preach your BS, but we
know about your light bulbs RestoreGore.

Al Gore will be the first US president who actually makes
major changes in policy to offset global warming. Yet, you
think the world still hasn't heard his slide show and he should
do that till he dies? I'm glad you're unique in that assessment.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:21 PM
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68.  Yes, All CFLS.
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 05:33 PM by RestoreGore
And the usual suspects pile on... BTW, my carbon footprint is 1.1 tons and I offset the rest. Know what that is? No wonder he doesn't want to run. You all sound like Rwers attacking people personally because they actually CARE. And again, as a man of his own mind he can do a heck of a lot more than give slideshows now. If you had just an inkling of vision you might be able to see that.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:53 PM
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71. Actually you've been the one attacking...

Notice how it's everyone against you? Right, now we're all "Rwers".
Just because we want the best person to be the next president. One
with both experience and compassion. You get singled out because
your misplaced anger is getting old.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:07 PM
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66. I think a Gore as a private citizen has the advantage of fewer distractions.
He's got a single goal right now. If he were president, he wouldn't be able to focus on it as he's able to right now.

I believe I remember an interview with Bill Clinton where he said something to the effect that he felt he was able to accomplish more since leaving the White House because he had fewer distractions.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:17 PM
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46. I still have my Gore 08 bumper sticker on my car

It is next to my impeach Bush and Cheney, Sprawlmart always low wages, save a seal boycott Canadian seafood, and union pride AFSCME local 251. They all just fit without covering up my lights etc....

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:40 PM
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49. At first glance, it's a sad statement. But reading between the lines, you
can see that what he's saying is, "my film and efforts on behalf of the environment are not about me (and a run for the presidency) - they are honest efforts. (but I could be persuaded to run if the interest was there)".

I remain hopeful.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:52 PM
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63. Those who don't want Gore to run
have been pointing at these words for ages now. As long as he leaves the door open a crack I'm holding out hope we might actually have a candidate I am inspired to work very hard to get elected.

Julie
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:53 PM
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64. Do people ever search for duplicate threads before posting?
Seriously, how many times do we have to see the same. damn. article. written up over and over again?

I wish the mods would smack these folks down a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only Gore supporter who's sick to death of reading this topic and getting depressed, only to find out it's the same ol' "no intention" line.

These repetitive news reports are just aimed at clamping down on the surge of support Al gets. Well, it's not gonna work. Until our man says "I will not run" via a Shermanesque statement, we'll continue to hope.

No matter what a few faux Gore supporters (y'know, those who just love Al but for some reason are against his running for the office where he'd do the most good) say. :eyes:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:23 PM
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69. Prove he would do the most good there
I'm still waiting to see it.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:01 PM
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65. My guess is -- Gore is worried about the DLC -- but the DNC has more power then the DLC...
and I think most on DU, were key to getting Howard Dean appointed as chair of the DNC. Why not, appeal to Dean -- to have him contact Gore and explain how the DNC could make sure the DLC does not hit below the belt if Gore runs.

I think with Hillary getting a cool Half-Billion-Dollar Bonanza from unknown sources, and from interest groups (pharmaceutical drugs) that represent Hillary's usual enemies -- should raise red flags for Dean at the DNC.
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