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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:32 AM Original message |
Per CNN, Tom Vilsack is ending his campaign. 9:32amCT. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. Popular opinion on DU was that Biden would drop out first. |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Just saw it too.... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. I don't think Vilsack had much support in the first place |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. OMG, here we go....Not a good sign for the party. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Why is this not a good sign? Seems to me there were way to |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. The wrong ones are dropping out. |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. There may very well be a senator on both tickets. n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I thought he was a former Gov. He was also a senator? nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Go back and read the post (including subject heading) again. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Pls. enlighten me. I'm not getting your senator reference. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The ones who are left, Edwards, Obama, Clinton are senators. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Now I gotcha. Thanks. nt |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Senators don't win because their voting record is used against them... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Yes, but in his case, his paper-thin experience will be used against him. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Right now, the country's being run by the most experienced statesmen in America... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I also meet your stated qualifications. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. They're not my qualifications. They're the Constitution's qualifications... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I think the voters might want something more than a candidate... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I feel the same way. The voters should decide. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Well yeah, they'll/we'll decide. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I like Richardson pretty well, especially for political reasons... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. "Hillary is positively loathed on the right, ..." |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Yeah, her and John McCain have that in common... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Vilsack is a man of reason, a good governor and ultimately would have |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I agree, The more ideas the better. But the media only can handle |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Maybe the media should drop out. nt |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
61. If only we could be so lucky |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Campaign ended before '08 even started. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. $150 million |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:34 AM Original message |
Wow, I think he is quitting too soon. I don't take this as a good sign.n/t |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you for the alert, babylonsister. I'm really surprised by |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. Poor Rachel Maddow (AAR host) will be crushed.. |
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capi888 (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. I liked Vilsack, |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
9. MSNBC just said that AP is reporting that he will drop out. |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
10. here's a link:Ex-Iowa Gov. Vilsack dropping 2008 bid |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. That's too bad... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. I heard that. Now we are down to DLC head Al From's last DLC candidate--Hillary Clinton. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Richardson is also DLC and held a position in the Clinton White House. n/t |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Thanks for pointing this out, though Richardson was not one of Al From's four named "candidates" |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Richardson seems to be backing away from NAFTA he may be on the outs with From |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
16. Wow, Iowa just became a much bigger player |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. He wouldn't have won Iowa but now there isn't any excuse for candidates |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
18. It's too bad. He seemed to be the only one with a true issues-oriented campaign. |
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cyberswede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. good VP candidate? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
22. Vilsack is in....and now, he's out.....and so, |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. Vilsack was a non-starter, Clark can wait but not too long |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. Who does this help? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. IMO, Richardson. n/t |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. fingers crossed nt |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Edwards, Hillary, Obama - no one else is a factor yet in Iowa. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. Hillary, in my opinion. n/t |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
27. In polls from Iowa (his home state), Vilsack was tied with "undecided" for fourth place = time to go |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Polls are irrelevant at this point. To many times to count, the leaders now |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yeah, but it's his home state. nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
32. that means Hillary will finish 3rd in Iowa instead of fourth. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
50. Hmmmm, wow unexpected. |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
52. smart move and the reason why you won't see second tier candidates like Clark getting in this race.. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Clark hasn't ruled out running. |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. even Richardson is much stronger than Clark..... |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. You may be right. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
56. Vilsack says he got out b/c he couldn't raise money, but why couldn't he raise money? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
60. Hillary Clinton |
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