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NDP Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:33 PM
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Ed Garvey: Hillary coronation wanted by 'the bigs'
A billion dollars will be spent on this race. By whom? The bigs. Why will they cough up the money? Because of a burning desire for good government?The race for president is in full swing, but feel no need to get excited, contribute to a candidate or watch the debates. Selecting the "American Idol" will be a more democratic process than nominating the Republican and Democratic candidates for president.

You, my friends, are not needed. Big media conglomerates, pollsters, consultants, big drug and insurance companies, and other captains of industry will take this burden from your shoulders. You have plenty to keep you busy just making a living, so you can let the big boys ("bigs") and their bagmen make the decision for you. Rather comforting, wouldn't you say?

The bigs want a close race between the Democrat and the Republican, so that both must beg them for big bucks in their Faustian bargain.

The Democratic Leadership Council bigs decided five years ago to nominate Hillary Clinton in 2008. Sure, Barack Obama is a rising star with charisma Hillary would kill for, but he won't get the big money he needs. You say, "But people like him." So what? Too unpredictable. The bigs don't know enough about him. You will be told, "not enough experience." Translated, that means "he might have his own agenda."

He might pursue peace in the Middle East while pushing for universal single-payer health care or proposing that the bigs pay Social Security taxes on all income coupled with a progressive tax system. Yikes! Better stick with Hillary. The bigs know her game, and she plays well. Remember NAFTA?

John Edwards? Hell no. He is way too serious about poverty, and that could bring more money and smaller classes to public schools but less for the military-industrial complex. What if Edwards pushes through a living wage, health care, fewer prisons, and decent housing? One can almost hear the bigs yelling, "What about us?" Iraq? Bring 'em home. Iran? Leave it to the U.N. Besides, Edwards thinks corporations should be responsible for their misdeeds. What is he a commie?...

...Remember when we had a democracy and people like us played a role in nominating our candidates? Whom do you favor for "American Idol"?

Our democracy has been hijacked. Might as well watch TV.

http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=120749&ntpid=0


This guy sounds like me. Will the country be suckered again in 2008? Certainly looks like it.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:38 PM
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1. A belated welcome to DU!
I'm not sure about the Edwards spin, but Ed is usually pretty right on...




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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:39 PM
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2. You can tell the Dem party powerstructure decided a dive on Sept 12, 2001.
They would not bother spending a dime on party infrastructure for 2002 and 2004 while they played their DC centric games and kept the money in DC.

Every inch the Dem candidates DID gain in 2002 and 2004 had to be gained by themselves and US little people.

FOCK Terry McAuliffe and everyone he services.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:40 PM
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3. Duck!! Incoming!! n/t
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:46 PM
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4. Is this why Pres Gore is not likely to run?
He would NOT want to run and then be denied the nomination. If this Garvey theory is valid, Gore would know, and act accordingly. And we could assume that the other Dems are just running for VP.

I believe this more than not, but I hope it's not true.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:17 PM
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5. I hope it's wrong too.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 03:33 AM
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17. If Gore runs does that help or hurt Obama?
Just wondering....
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:38 PM
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6. It could be a reason he's holding out until the last minute...
Knowing that the DLC party machinery will try and shut down anyone that will contend with their compliant Hillary candidate. He probably knows that his best shot is to wait until the last minute so that he can unleash a campaign strategy that they won't be respond to quickly enough that will attract enough grass roots support. That's my guess. They got Howard Dean early on in Iowa last year when he threatened the corporatist status quo too much. They'd do the same with Gore if he got in too early.

Gore is our best shot of unseating this corporatist one party rule. We need to be ready to support him fully if and when he jumps in!
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:40 PM
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7. Don't know much about Ed Garvey
However, from everything I'm watching go on, Garvey has just stated the glaring truth. Or maybe, as close to the truth as it's going to get.

We will be permitted Plan A or Plan B. That's it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:58 PM
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9. he runs this site
http://www.fightingbob.com/
Fighting Bob

and is the driving force behind this

http://www.fightingbobfest.org/
Fighting Bob Fest 2007
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 08:42 PM
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18. ...and ran against Toxic Tommy Thompson for WI Goobernator
in 1998.

Ed knows all about being kicked in the nuts by Big Money.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:52 PM
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8. Well, we'll just have to give the Bigs another taste of defeat
they wanted ABD at DNC Chair, too (Anybody But Dean), and lost. We can do it, but it'll take effort. And digging into our OWN pockets, like we did for Dean.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 12:13 AM
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12. It's time for The Bigs to have another large dose of reality come the primaries. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:06 PM
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10. Heck, I wrote and posted the same theme a couple of weeks ago!
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NDP Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 11:53 PM
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11. Well then, you are intelligent, then I've been saying it since 2003.
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 11:53 PM by NDP
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:11 AM
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15. Thanks for the compliment!
I guess. :shrug:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 12:25 AM
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13. Garvey nailed it on everyone and everything. (nt)
Edited on Wed Feb-28-07 12:26 AM by w4rma
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:06 AM
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14. Excellent article
The authors insight into the "corruption" that is unspeakable; is a breath of fresh air, for any and all liberals, that that are left in this world.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:21 AM
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16. There will be an unprecedented amount of $$$ spent in this race.
A scenario I have heard floating around and one I fully support is that Hillary will be weakened but Obama will not be able to fulfill expectations and Edwards won't gain traction, essentially canceling each other out, and Gore will be diametrically opposed to Hillary's vision for America and will ride in to challenge her and kick the ever lovin' crap out of her, and then go on to do the same to his opponent in the general.

And all will be well in the universe and my personal wellbeing will be stored.

There will be plenty of $$$ to go around on this side of the aisle. I have no doubt about that. And this is still a democracy and I will not submit to the mindset that throws in the towel believing the pessimistic hype that it's a done deal. But that's me.
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