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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:42 PM
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Horse's Mouth: Kentucky Fried -Yet Another Wingnut Sliming of Hillary Proved to be Bogus
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 10:56 PM by AtomicKitten
Yet brought here freshly mined from the effin DRUDGE REPORT, as shameful as it is disgusting.

The Horse's Mouth - A blog about the reporting of poltics, and the politics of reporting.
Yet Another Wingnut Sliming Of Hillary Proven To Be Bogus
March 05, 2007

Another day, another wingnut tale proven to be highly dishonest. Today's exhibit of winger mendacity -- pushed today by Drudge, Fox News, and some of the big winger blogs -- concerns the southern accent Hillary put on in Alabama yesterday.

The Drudge headline links to this audio of Hillary speaking yesterday. If you listen to it, the main thing you'll hear is Hillary speaking in a southern drawl, saying phrases that sound like her own words:

"I don't feel no ways tired..I come too far from where I started from...Nobody told me that the road would be easy...I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me."

As you can see, this clip makes it sound like Hillary is adopting not just this drawl, but this language and this down-home grammar, as her own. The righties have been waving this around to prove what a phony Hillary is. This audio was promoted by, among others, PowerlineBlog, Free Republic, Instapundit, and Fox News, which linked to it under the headline, "Will the real Hillary please speak up?"

AUDIO LINK AT http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkingpointsmemo.com%2Fhorsesmouth%2F2007%2F03%2Fyet_another_win.php

But as always, a simple fact-check shows this latest wingnut preoccupation to be highly dishonest. The audio clip Drudge linked to cherry-picked that quote and removed it completely from its context, which would have shown that Hillary wasn't adopting this accent or grammar or language as her own at all.

Rather, it turns out that Hillary was actually quoting the hymn lyrics of someone else -- while clearly and very openly imitating (not very well, it turns out) the cadences she thought the lyrics would traditionally have been delivered in. There was nothing phony about it at all.

Here's a transcript of the passage in question:

My friends, we have a march to finish. I will be reintroducing the Count Every Vote Act, to ensure that every voter is given the opportunity to vote, that every vote is counted, and each voter is given the chance to verify his or her vote before it is cast and made permanent.

We have to stay awake. We have a march to finish. On this Lord's day, let us say with one voice the words of James Cleveland's great freedom hymn, "I don't feel no ways tired/I come too far from where I started from/Nobody told me that the road would be easy/I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me."

And we know -- we know -- we know, if we finish this march, what awaits us? St. Paul told us, in the letter to the Galatians, "Let us not grow weary in doing good, for in due seasons we shall reap, if we do not lose heart."


See? The audio Drudge and all these other hapless wingers promoted reproduced the hymn lyrics as Hillary's words, without sharing the fact that she was quoting someone else. It's so misleading that all you can do is laugh at the audacity of it.

Look, Hillary's real sins here were being corny as hell and painfully tone deaf. But phony this wasn't. You'd think that after having so many of their silly tales blow up in their faces these wingers would start checking the facts once in awhile -- if only to stop making themselves look so damn foolish all the time.

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkingpointsmemo.com%2Fhorsesmouth%2F2007%2F03%2Fyet_another_win.php
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:45 PM
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1. That guy is such a COCK
and thats actually a slur to cocks
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:47 PM
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2. Greg Sargent has the real video:
Rather, it turns out that Hillary was actually quoting the hymn lyrics of someone else -- while clearly and very openly imitating (not very well, it turns out) the cadences she thought the lyrics would traditionally have been delivered in. There was nothing phony about it at all. Watch for yourself:

Snip...

Look, Hillary's real sins here were being corny as hell and painfully tone deaf. But phony this wasn't. You'd think that after having so many of their silly tales blow up in their faces these wingers would start checking the facts once in awhile -- if only to stop making themselves look so damn foolish all the time.

more...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:53 PM
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4. give it a rest
It is disgusting that you STILL persist in perpetuating this rightwing smear even with the author's own words saying quite the opposite.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:56 PM
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6. What are you objecting to: "Greg Sargent has the real video"? n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:55 PM
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5. Oops! n/t
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 10:56 PM by ProSense
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:48 PM
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3. Was just repeated on CNN w/ Candi Crowley et al
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 10:48 PM by MethuenProgressive
How fast does that lie travel, again?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:59 PM
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7. here at DU
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 11:01 PM by AtomicKitten
some are more than willing to do the dirty work of the GOP smear merchants
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:51 AM
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23. GOP smear merchants love bashing long time Democrats like Kerry...
...as do some here on DU. It's almost like they copy and paste stuff from NewsMax...






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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 11:05 PM
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8. THANK YOU for posting this
I've been debunking the "Kentucky Fried Hillary" story since yesterday - but some people seem to enjoy it too much to care whether it was reported correctly or not.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 11:19 PM
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10. no, they don't care
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 11:23 PM by AtomicKitten
any little piece of nastiness will do when it comes to trashing our candidates
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 11:10 PM
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9. Amazing how so many fools got suckered by a bogus recording & ran with it all day
I posted this morning in one of the goofy threads about it that it shouldn't be believed:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3146042&mesg_id=3146248

Good job, AK. I wonder if any of the suckers who got fooled and poked fun at her all day will be willing to eat a little crow now that they know they got shammed.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 11:22 PM
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11. interesting
.... how the fact that that tripe came from the Drudge Report AND it was debunked doesn't seem to stop the jackals here at DU. Funny how DU locks the most innocuous of threads and lets this crap remain unscathed. This little episode is as revealing as it is disgusting.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:00 AM
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12. Maybe someone could start an ongoing thread listing the debunked LIES..
and keep it kicked until the Primary..

Bring the garlic, crosses, wooden stakes, mirrors, holy water and a priest.
This could get hairy.. Also, watch out for the dude in the blk cape chasing
voluptuous women with overflowing bosoms.


:toast:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:03 AM
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13. K&R
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:06 AM
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14. did you see this?
"as best he could" ????????????????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3147288

I'm thinking of some bad words but DU wouldn't like it if I posted them.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:12 AM
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15. All FLAMEBAIT... I hate to waste it..
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:15 AM
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17. disgusting
I can hardly believe this is DEMOCRATIC Underground.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:26 AM
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18. Maybe you'd believe it if the
hypocrisy wasn't a factor.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:46 AM
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19. self-delete
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 04:48 AM by AtomicKitten
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:47 AM
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20. You are blinded by your own bitterness
.... and constantly project it onto others. You really need to pull up your
socks and get on with your life.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3143929&mesg_id=3147647
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:17 AM
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22. Nah,
not bitter, just critical.
:hi:

Nice projection at your link though.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:13 AM
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16. From your link: "Look, Hillary's real sins here were being corny as hell and painfully tone deaf."
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:14 AM by ProSense
n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 06:42 AM
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21. Hillary haters on the RIGHT and the LEFT: Another smear shot to hell
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:43 AM
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24. kick
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:49 AM
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25. Seems like it should be spelled DrUdge...
As much as he is being used to bash Hillary around here...

As I have said, and been criticized for on a number of occasions...for her left wing critics there is no smear to scurrilous, no source too right wing, and no conspiracy theory too outrageous as long as it is directed against Hillary.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 10:48 AM
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26. And just this Morning Imus and Frank Rich were jumping on the Drudge/Hillary crap
and yucking it up over it.

I'm not a Hillary fan but when Imus and Frank Rich join forces to support Druge...what are we supposed to think?

Frank Rich was the most disappointing in verbally nodding agreement and chuckle with Imus claiming Hillary was using an accent. Neither mentioned that Hillary spent most of her life in Arkansas and is married to a guy with a pretty strong accent. That she's able to pick up the rhythm of Southern Speak is not something that should be held against her.


Thanks for posting this. I don't check out Drudge or Fox News so don't know what goes on there unless someone posts here on DU. Good to hit back on this....and good to question Frank Rich's loyalties if he's yucking it up with that hack Imus.
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