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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:51 AM
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Lieberman strikes again...Fox Makes Friends And Foes
Joe Lieberman was beaming. "Sam Fox represents what America is all about," he said, "and that's why he will be, when confirmed, an extraordinary ambassador."

Fox has come under fire from Democrats because of his role in helping to bankroll the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 2004 - the group that many Democrats still hold responsible for John Kerry's narrow loss to President Bush that year.

The day after the 2006 election, Lieberman, elected as an independent, got a $10,500 contribution from Fox and another $10,500 from Fox's wife. Both are generous GOP donors.

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read full article in today's (3.8.07) Hartford Courant
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-swiftboat0308.artmar08,0,4513074.story?coll=hc-headlines-home
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:25 AM
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1. "senator was making a highly unusual appearance to lobby for Fox's .."


The scene was last week's Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Connecticut's junior senator was making a highly unusual appearance to lobby for Fox's nomination to be the U.S. ambassador to Belgium......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:27 AM
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2. "Lieberman dropped into Fox's confirmation hearing last week to ..."


Lieberman dropped into Fox's confirmation hearing last week to praise the St. Louis businessman, a somewhat unorthodox step for a senator who is not a committee member.

After Lieberman left, Kerry, a senior member of the Foreign Relations Committee, grilled Fox for 91/2 tense minutes about why he gave to the Swift Boat fund.

Today, Fox's nomination is still awaiting committee action, and some Democrats are seething over his Swift Boat connection.

"I haven't made any judgments" on whether to block Fox, Kerry said this week, and he declined to comment on Lieberman's support. "I've been around the Senate long enough to understand," he said grimly.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:28 AM
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3. "Blogs have been full of anger."



Blogs have been full of anger. Connecticut-based MyLeftNutmeg.com got comments saying Lieberman "has absolutely no shame," while another asked, "What can we do to get Harry Reid and other Senators to put a muzzle on this idiot?"

Fox explained in an e-mail this week that he "gained great respect for Sen. Lieberman during his run for the vice presidency in 2000," when Lieberman was on the Democratic ticket with presidential nominee Al Gore.

"Shortly thereafter," Fox said, "I had occasion to meet him, and over the years my respect and admiration grew. I especially admire his views on foreign policy, Israel and the Middle East, which are in accord with my own, as he knows."

Fox also disputed the idea that Lieberman's appearance at the committee meeting was unusual, noting that the senator was "one of several non-committee members who introduced me in my hearing." Other senators who appeared were three from his home state - Democrat Claire McCaskill, Republican Christopher S. Bond and former Republican Sen. John C. Danforth. Also testifying for Fox was longtime friend Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:55 AM
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5. Fox was impressed with Lieberman AFTER HE WAS NO LONGER A THREAT
(and after he discouraged Gore from fighting)
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:54 AM
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13. "I especially admire his views on foreign policy, Israel and the Middle East"
Fox explained in an e-mail this week that he "gained great respect for Sen. Lieberman during his run for the vice presidency in 2000," when Lieberman was on the Democratic ticket with presidential nominee Al Gore.

"Shortly thereafter," Fox said, "I had occasion to meet him, and over the years my respect and admiration grew. I especially admire his views on foreign policy, Israel and the Middle East, which are in accord with my own, as he knows."

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Another AIPAC puppet? Fox is a noted leader among the St. Louis jewish community.

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:_mmMZwnjaioJ:www.jewishinstlouis.org/+ambassador+sam+fox+jewish&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:50 AM
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4. Could he be any more transparent? nt
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:59 AM
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6. and yet, he fumes that democrats
have "left" him. See, to Joe - its all OUR fault - his drop in popularity and respect has NOTHING to do with his words, actions, nope its all US. Zellous (or is it zealots) Lieberman, however, was given the mike last weekend to do the weekly Democratic response on the radio? That still puzzles the heck out of me.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:45 AM
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12. Reid is doing it for somebody, and I think that the somebody is named Clinton
because no one needed Joe to win lastNovember more than the Clintons so they could point to Lieberman's win as a rejection of the antiwar voices.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:07 AM
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7. We've all met brown-nosers, but
Hoe Lieberman's entire head is brown.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:04 AM
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8. Don't criticize him
He is holy
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:31 AM
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17. Actually he isn't all that holy
Given their actions, neither Sam Fox or Joe Leiberman actions here were in keeping with basic tenets of their faith.

Rabbi Donin, in "To be a Jew, after explaining "lashon hara", the evil tongue, says:"One who speaks outright falsehoods is called a spreader of evil, malicious, and false reports, or motzi shem ra. He is the lowest of the low and is regarded a moral leper."

Sam Fox paid the SBVT to spread lies. When Senator Kerry mentioned politics of personal destruction, Sam Fox lamented how ugly that type of politics was, adding that Kerry was a hero and that the SBVT could not take that away. What he did not do was to accept any personal responsibility or apologize to the Senator.

Joe Leiberman, at minimum needs to qualify his endorsement of Sam Fox by explicitly criticing his endorsement of the SBVT liars.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:33 PM
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18. I am not a religious person myself; but even I know that the Ten Commandments ....
contain a clear prohibition against 'bearing false witness against thy neighbour'.

Which means that any religious Christian or Jew who supports the swiftboaters should feel pretty uncomfortable.

For that matter, so should any non-religious person who supports the swiftboaters!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 02:33 PM
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20. I agree with you - you don't need to be religious at all
to know that there is right and wrong - and to know the SBVT were wrong.

What is annoying is that many did it just for political reasons, some because they hated that Kerry had protested. They had the option of honestly attacking his political positions or his Seante testimony - both of which are why I support Kerry - and it would have been completely fair.

What is appalling is that they attacked his service which was a sacrifice. He risked his life for his country. He clearly had the connections that would have let him stay home, continuing a pretty pleasant life, but he obviously didn't chose to have other "priorities".
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:19 AM
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9. Traitor.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:30 AM
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10. Ugh. Disgusting.
Lieberman has truly gone to the dark side of the force now.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:41 AM
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11. delete - wrong place
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 09:42 AM by Mass
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:01 AM
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14. He legitimizes Hannity
Anyone who attempts to legitimize Hannity is an ememy.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:47 AM
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15. Lieberman and Fox share Israel, wrongly.
Fox led the Republican Jewish Committee on re-election, as the 'Bush is better for Israel' political wedge campaign of lies. As part of the Kerry on Israel group, admiring his very pro-diplomacy, mature vision of the Middle East, I disagree with both Fox and Lieberman. History has borne out that the administration's lack of diplomacy and the use of the military hammer, encouraging proxy wars, have been tragic.

I wouldn't award Fox any prize for wisdom or finesse, a necessary trait representing any party or country.

Unlike the Courant description, Kerry was respectful, restrained, even wry, as he methodically questioned Fox to get responses that reaveled he knew nothing of Belgium. The Senator asked the only substantive questions regarding that post.

Fox gave to the SBVT, long after proven lies, and may have contibuted to the $4 million spent in Ohio alone the last week. Although he said he deplored 527s, his only defense was that two wrongs made a right.

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ajeffersonian Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:15 AM
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16. Wake up Connecticut
I still can't believe they elected this ...(prof. deleted;-)
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:39 PM
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19. I agree with you!
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 01:40 PM by LeftishBrit
Bush is NOT better for Israel. If any Middle Eastern country, including Israel, escapes ruin and destruction, it won't be thanks to Bush!

Great post by the way - too many people seem to think that all Israelis support and/or benefit from Bush's policies, which is not true at all.
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