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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:33 AM
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Poll question: How important is it to you that we finally get a female president (democratic of course)?
How important is it to you that we finally have a female democratic president? Considering that besides Kucinich, we really don't have many really liberal males actually running (they are all about as moderate as Clinton, IMO).
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:39 AM
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1. As long as the best person wins, that's all that matters to me.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:58 AM
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2. I want a people President first last always. Not a corporation military President
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 10:00 AM by higher class
Our country is not PURE enough take more risks with corporate military backers in order to strive for a female or any other minority.

This is an issue of survival of our country based entirely on representing the people and not corporate welfare, their partners in military, the stockholders, the Boards of Directors, the Foundations, the Barons who stand for perpetual war (which means unlimited and partisan support for Israel which I'm not going to fall for anymore)and the sublimation of the little people.

Too many of our candidates don't give a damn about the right to vote, but they want our vote.

Too many candidate bow to the wealthy.

There are more important things than gender, color, race, religion at this point in time.

From a former fighter for the Clintons who has learned what's going on presently.

There is no Democrat mandate that will sustain a win for Hillary and it's darn depressing to contemplatee.

The future for females? Republican females probably wouldn't make it either. There are too many men who hate women in leadership roles. They have a little start if they have the right voice. A Republican or Democratic female with the depth of voice (not the accent) of Vanessa Redgrave might make it in the future when different people are running the Republican Party and not stealing and torturing the world.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:51 AM
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3. I just find it odd that women comprise 50%+ of the population
and yet have never been elected to the highest office in the land. This is a major discrepancy. I'm not saying that Hillary Clinton is our best choice, as the IWR does hang over her head (but it hangs over Edward's head as well).
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:14 PM
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6. Many other things hang over Hillary's head as well as her Iraq position. n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:02 PM
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4. I'd like to see a female president
but Hillary isn't the one for me.
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:05 PM
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5. Don't really care
It would be a historical milestone but I really don't care if the president is white/black/male/female/etc as long as they do a good job.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:23 PM
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7. If you mean Speaker Pelosi right now then Yes if it an election
then it doesn't matter one way or another to me.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:29 PM
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8. Good job but...
I had to vote other. I think the poll writer tried to capture all of the reasons. Mine just didn't make it.

I have no problem with a moderate Dem woman as president. Clinton makes me uncomfortable, so she wouldn't be my first choice. I think there are other women I'd rather see in that role. I would keep my eye on Pelosi (or would have if it didn't seem like she had caved on this War bill.)

However, I absolutely, positively cannot support an "Affirmative Action" presidential candidacy. I don't think one should vote for a woman just because she's a woman, especially if a man running against her is a stronger, more experienced candidate who is a better fit for one's values.

That's probably what I hate about this race right now. It seems very much an "Affirmative Action" race. Obama doesn't have much experience, but we're supposed to overlook this because he's a black man, and we don't get strong black candidates every day. Clinton has some "baggage" in her past, but we're supposed to overlook this because she's a woman, and we don't get strong female candidates every day.


Are we past 3 women candidates now? Chisholm, Dole, Clinton? Have there been more within the two primary parties? I'm not sure. However - and this is a sign that I tend to go for slow, steady progress - there will come a day when having a diverse set of candidates is common, and at that point, I think we'll end up with a woman as president. One of the reasons that this is important to me is that I want it to happen in such a way that if things go wrong, there is no "NEVER AGAIN" reaction. Right now, I can see that happening. Fifty years from now, I think things will be very, very different.

I wonder in my mind if we might end up seeing women begin to dominate politics. And I wonder what that might mean. Sadly, my thoughts on this matter are not good. Women are usually not handed anything until men are done with it; if we began to dominate Capitol Hill, it would probably mean that the true power center of our nation had shifted away from government.



At any rate, I'm an other. I want a woman to be president when I'm convinced that she was better than anyone else available. Or that everyone else was worse. But that's my criterion for any person. I don't plan to change my criteria just because a woman is running.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:46 PM
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9. I hate this idea of affirmative action for candidates
The person best qualified to lead the country should win. I don't care if that candidate is male, female, or transgendered. I don't care if the candidate is black, white, red, yellow, brown, or green with purple polka dots.

As Clare on Six Feet Under was fond of saying, "It's all bullshit."

This talk about "It's time we had a woman president," or "It's time we had a black president" is all bullshit.

We need someone who sees the state of the nation clearly and has concrete, easily understandable ideas for fixing it.

All this "Hillary or Obama?" crap is media driven. Both speak mostly in warm and fuzzy platitudes and certainly won't upset the status quo, no matter how much the status quo needs upsetting. That is why the corporate media LOVE to promote both of them, as if they're the only choices.

Don't fall for it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:30 PM
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10. I'd love to see a woman President
But I wouldn't for a woman just for the sake of having one in the office.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:37 PM
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11. I want a president who remembers Paine and Lincoln and King and the
Kennedys.

I want a president who's read O'Conner, Faulkner, Sappho, Homer, Shakespeare, Roth, and Baldwin.

I want a president who values the long trajectory of ideas and the beauty and irony of the world of human beings.

I don't care which sex this president is. But the heart and mind have to be there.
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