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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:05 PM
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Op Ed News writer says Howard Dean is chair of the DLC.
I don't believe some of the stuff I read these days. If I wrote stuff like that here some of the folks who copyread everything I write would have my head on a silver platter.

Give and They Shall Receive

One can point out Howard Dean’s success in raising money in relatively small quantities via the internet. It was called a truly grassroots effort. Let’s be honest about that effort. Dean did raise an impressive sum of money via his internet “grassroots” efforts, but I’m willing to bet that, if Dean did receive the Democratic Party’s nomination in 2004, he would have had to receive money from “special interest groups” as well as his “grassroots”. Once a politician begins to take money from “special interest groups”, they begin to pay special interest to the contributors. Once the “special interest” contributors gain the ears and minds of politicians, the grass dies because the roots are ignored.

The other part of Dean’s success was the fact that he wasn’t even successful. Adding insult to injury, he now heads up the Democratic Leadership Council, a group whose thinking is securely affixed within the box. There’s nothing even remotely radical about the thinking of the DLC.

We fear that The Regime will somehow ensconce itself into the leadership of this nation before the 2008 elections and will actually become an official, text book dictatorship.


I haven't read the rest of the article yet, nor do I think that I will.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:10 PM
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1. What's amazing is that this is a progressive site!
I'd expect to see that type of BS from the Cons, but not from one of ours.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:11 PM
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2. Op Ed News is one of those sites that anyone can write for. Just submit an
article, and poof! You're an expert!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:12 PM
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3. theres a contact the author link at the bottom
Unfortunately, you have to sign up.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:12 PM
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4. Let me also complain
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 01:13 PM by rock
about the writer's use of quotation marks. If he means grassroots or special interest, he should say so using those words; if he means something else he should be able to use the words that he does mean. Suppose I had written: Let me also complain about the "writer's" "use" of "quotation marks". See what abominable diction that would be.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:13 PM
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5. What do you expect when its just boilerplate pushed out the door
Facts do not matter only hitting the same themes over and over.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:16 PM
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6. You can go to that site and proclaim a cow is a duck
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Rove agent out to sow dissension.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:37 PM
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9. This just in: Old Bessie is actually a duck.
:evilgrin:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:19 PM
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7. I read the op-ed, the writer is a cynical dilettante, which is obvious by his DLC gaffe.
He listens to a few radio programs and dabbles in politics (meaning he watches more politically themed TV than the average bear), which he then uses to totally discredit the process.

He's making a case for not donating and being politically inert.

In this instance, he's made himself tragically comic.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:36 PM
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8. If he was nominated, he would have received $75M in Federal contributions.
So that part is nonsense.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:40 PM
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10. Here's another good one
From Bill Frist MD
Wednesday April 11, 2007

SUBJECT: First Help Stop the Danerous Democrats

Last week, the Senate Democrats embraced a plan that will cut off funding for our troops in Iraq and begin an immediate withdrawal and House Spearker Nancy Pelosi engaged in dangerous discussions with the leader of a nation that sponsors terrorism.

Those were last weeks' accomplishments...and chilling signs of future intentions...by the Democrats' two highest ranking leaders in Congress-- Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

And that isn't all...in both the House and Senate the Democrat leadership is drawing up plans to increase spending and repeal President Bush's historic tax cuts.

They must be stopped.

__this paragraph deals with asking for money.

Just last November, when discussing support for our brave men and women in unform, Harry Reid said, "We're not going to do anything to limit funding or cut off funds."

Now - only a few sort months later - he's calling for a vote on a plan by Sen. Russ Feingold...the chief archiect of the Democrats - cut and run strategy that views surrender as a solution to Iraq's difficulties. At its core that plan seeks to cease funding for our soldiers in Iraq and begin an immediate withdawal tht would leave Iraq's freely elected officials unable to govern and undobutedly create a safe haven for terrorist intent on harming the U.S. and it's citizens.

--more begging for money.

While Reid was busy supporting a plan that would cripple our miitary's operations in Iraq, Pelosi began a series of meetings with government officals in Syria - meetings by a public official that send mixed messages about America's intentions to the rest of the world...meetings that President Bush, our country's twice-elected commander in chief, condemmed as "counterproductive".

At a time when we are engaged in an ongoing war in Iraq and a broader war on terror, our nation cannot affor to send confusing signals to the international community. Especially not for the purpose of partisan political gain.

Begging again for money

Bill Frist, M.D.

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Can any of you belive this lying bullshit.

Democrats bill will cut off funding. Not once does he mention that the fact that bush is going to veto it will cut off funding.

And he smears Nancy Pelosi for talking to Syria and ignores the republican visit preceding hers.

And that we, the democrats, are sending mized messages to the internation community. What the hell is bush doing.

I got so damn mad when I read this I wanted to fire back, but if I unsubscribe I won't get further emails and know what the hell his lying sack of crap is spreading.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:45 PM
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11. Looks like a typo to me...
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 01:47 PM by Breeze54
Michael Bonanno is a published poet, essayist and musician who lives in the San Francisco Bay Area.

He is an associate editor for OpEdNews.

Bonanno is a political progressive, not a Democratic Party apologist.
He believes it's government's job to help the needy and that leaving
the people's well being to the so called "private sector" is social suicide.

http://www.opednews.com/author/author1823.html
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:54 PM
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12. He wrote it out: Democratic Leadership Council.
I don't know the guy, but I do know that there is a lot of stuff that shows they don't know Governor Dean's role. Dean once wrote another writer there about an article that was at Opednews and Counterpunch:

"The DNC is not in the business of telling Congress to go easy on this President," Dean wrote. "I'd be grateful if you could correct the report."


Here's what the writer had accused the DNC of doing, totally unfair...

Only a few days ago, I received a call from a fund-raiser for the DNC asking me to help the party elect a Democratic Congress in 2006. I told the woman she was wasting her time, and that I would not give a penny to a corrupt and self-destructing organization that was so afraid to be a genuine opposition party that it would sabotage its own best candidates. She indignantly asked me who the DNC had sabotaged and I ran a whole list by her, from Cynthia McKinney to Cindy Sheehan. Now we can add Paul Hackett to the list.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1240


There's a pattern at the progressive media sites of not understanding, or perhaps misunderstanding, the various parts of the Democratic Party.

We need to set them straight. There is too much of it.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:02 PM
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16. Why don't you write an Op-Ed
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 02:02 PM by Breeze54
and submit it there about Dean and his role??

That would be awesome!! Do it!!!

OpEdNews invites you to Submit Your Articles or Diaries,
or Add links to articles on other sites

http://www.opednews.com/member_submissions.htm

Those kinds of mistakes drive me nuts too! ;)

But the whole OP-ED thing is just that, isn't it? :shrug:

Sort of a central place to post blog entries?

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:44 PM
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21. This is that kind of place also. If I make a mistake I get corrected.
I don't want to sign up there. I have written several authors there. So has Governor Dean. To correct stuff.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:56 PM
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13. No typo. Just a clueless spewer of boiler plate.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:03 PM
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17. BS!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:12 PM
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20. Talk to the author
He's the one that got a very basic fact and easily verifiable wrong in the middle of his rant against Dean and everything bad the Democratic party stands for.

Fuck him and his cluelessness.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:57 PM
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22. Actually the author agrees with Howard Dean, and me, and many others.
I am not a "Democratic party apologist", neither is Dean. He puts country over party even now.

I resent the implication, and I really think that anyone who writes an op ed needs to get his facts straight.

He may not be aware that Howard Dean often agreed with him about the government and basic human care for those in needy circumstances.
This is what angers me....people writing stuff like that and not knowing what they are talking about.

Here is what Dean has said often:

You know, a lot of people said our campaign was about anger; they never did quite get it right. What this campaign is about is hope. Hope for Americans. Americans really do want their country back, they want the country they believed in, a country that's a fair country, where middle class people can make a decent living and not have to worry about how to send their kids to college. Where ordinary Americans can depend on government. Did you hear what I said, Ronald Reagan? Can depend on government, for basic needs of health care, and shelter, we can depend on each other. We will undo what the right wing has done. Rugged individualism was great, 100 years ago on the frontier. We are in this together, and we are responsible for each other. And we will take our community back, because this country belongs to US and not the right wing of the Republican Party. *


http://www.crocuta.net/Dean/Transcript_of_Dean_Seattle_Speech_18March04.htm

Responsible for each other. That is what he said. I would love to see some of these op ed writers who don't even know what he is chairman do some research...or at least update their post.


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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 01:57 PM
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14. just one more example...
... of a so-called "progressive" not having clue about the Democratic party.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:01 PM
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15. May I say your insults to "progressives" are just as much resented.
There are outstanding "progressives", and there "non-progressives" who are pains in the butt.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:08 PM
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19. Frankly, my dear... I don't give a damn
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 02:10 PM by wyldwolf
Michael Bonanno is not a progressive. He's a "progressive," and you know how I make the distinction.

And trust me, you almost daily attacks on other who don't share your world view isn't appreciated much either.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:04 PM
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18. He was chair of the DLC...
...24 business hours ago! ;)
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