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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:16 PM
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Fmr. NY Gov. Mario Cuomo: Edwards Comes Closest To Facing Hard Issues
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 02:17 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
==y Political Producer Jamie McShane

Former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, who famously tortured political reporters who covered his ponderings of whether or not to run for president in the past, has offered WNBC an assessment of the current field.

According to Cuomo, all the Democratic presidential primary candidates are evading the difficult questions.

He said, "Let's face it, the candidates are all ducking the really hard issues, how do you pay for this? How exactly do you get out of Iraq? What are you doing in Afghanistan?"

The former New York Governor suggests that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are trying to avoid the issues by raising big money, and that Edwards comes closest to actually spelling out his positions.==

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/12188877/detail.html

As usual, Gov. Mario Cuomo is right.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:20 PM
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1. That's why Edwards has my early support
He's not perfect but he's the only one talking about the drubbing working people have taken through conservative economics, supply side, free trade without fair trade. Conservative economic practice has been a total failure.

If he's the nominee, I'll be happy to vote for him.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:36 PM
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36. Sounds like Edwards....
...has been listening to Dennis Kucinich.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:23 PM
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2. I liked Cuomo ...
Saying he comes closest though doesnt sound like much of an endorsement, just an acknowledgement about the remaining cash cows.
Dont tell me Mario is going to dodge the endorsment?
Are you going to post the rest of the story when available?
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:37 PM
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3. I agree: damned by faint praise n/t
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:59 PM
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4. I don't think Mario is going to endorse anyone
He was apparently asked about the race and gave his views. He is correct. Edwards offers far more details than the rest and that HRC and Obama are generally trying to avoid the big issues (particularly HRC, who unlike Obama has no plan on Iraq).

I doubt he will endorse anyone because his son is attorney general of NY and if he endorses anyone but the Senator from NY that will cause problems for his son. His son was also HUD secretary under Clinton so he has a personal tie to the Clintons. As far as the issues go, it seems Edwards is closest to what Mario stood for but I don't expect an endorsement.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:01 PM
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5. nope, I would say the candidate with the least to lose Comes Closest To Facing Hard Issues
Kucinich.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:04 PM
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6. Governor Cuomo disagrees
Or perhaps he was only talking about the "major" candidates. Why do you think about Gov. Cuomo's comments on your candidate? Is it an unfair criticism?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:11 PM
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7. Cuomo's comments on my candidate? What did he say about Bill Richardson?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:34 PM
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13. Kucinich endorsed Edwards in 2004. (nt)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:44 PM
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14. So?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:52 PM
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16. I was hoping you might quit with your cheap shots if you knew that Kucinich endorsed Edwards. (nt)
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 03:53 PM by w4rma
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:59 PM
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18. 1. I knew that and, 2. I've made no cheap shots.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 05:09 PM
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23. I apologize. My mistake. (nt)
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:52 PM
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21. I don't remember that
Do you have a link? Thanks.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 05:24 PM
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24. it was more like releasing his delegates to Edwards
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:08 PM
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29. They agreed to share support in Iowa caucuses if one wasn't getting enough votes to remain viable
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/19/elec04.prez.edwards.kucinich/index.html

Edwards, Kucinich agree to share support in Iowa caucuses
Monday, January 19, 2004 Posted: 3:37 PM EST (2037 GMT)

John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich have agreed to send their supporters each others' way if one isn't getting the votes needed to remain viable in a given caucus in Iowa.

DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) -- Democratic presidential candidates John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich have struck a deal to support each other should one candidate fail to draw the minimum support needed to compete in Monday night's Iowa caucuses, Edwards campaign sources said.

The decision could give Edwards, a U.S. senator from North Carolina, a boost in the convoluted caucuses, the first major Democratic contest of the election year. An Iowa poll published over the weekend shows Edwards is in a tight race with the four front-runners. The same poll has Kucinich, an Ohio congressman, drawing the support of just 3 percent of likely caucus-goers.

"Both of us believe in a lot of the same things, and we like each other very much," Edwards said. "But both of us also recognize at the end of the day, caucus-goers will have to make their own decisions about this."
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:51 PM
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33. "Share support"
That is about as close to an endorsement as you can get without a formal endorsement.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:43 PM
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32. That I remember
Kucinich did not endorse Edwards. Did you hear the one about Carter endorsed Edwards in 2004? :crazy:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 05:40 PM
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26. no, he didn't
Kucinich endorsed Kucinich. And when the primaries were over, Kucinich endorsed Kerry.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:12 PM
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35. There you go
But the myth-building never stops, you know?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:44 PM
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37. not with this guy, anyway.
The fawning adoration is nauseating.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:16 PM
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8. Context
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 03:17 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
Cuomo said that candidates can get away with dodging the issues in the primaries if they have a lot of money because the primaries will likely be over by 2/5. Some candidates will not have enough money (and also time) to get their message out. However, when they get to the general election they will be forced to deal with the hard issues.

He also said that Edwards had "great ideas" and Richardson a "magnificent resume."

I think Mario wants us to have a discussion of issues, not biographies, and probably feels that this will give us the best chance to win in November because if we elect a candidate with vague policies and generic rhetoric that candidate may not be able to pass muster when it counts in the general election because he or she will not be able to dodge the issues then.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:17 PM
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9. His son got Edwards' endorsement last election. (nt)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:19 PM
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10. scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:21 PM
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11. Nothing wrong with that. Its the whole point of building political alliances.
But in fairness to Cuomo he liked Edwards in 2004 even though he ended up endorsing Kerry (while the nomination was still in semi-contention).
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:22 PM
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12. Didn't say anything was wrong with it. But it does give the matter another perspective
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:50 PM
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20. Exactly.
I thought the same thing with Vilsack and Hillary.

:thumbsup:
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:51 PM
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15. HRC probably endorsed his son too
After all, he was the Democratic nominee for Attorney General of New York.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:08 PM
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19. She certainly did because she's a good Democrat
But the relationship between the two families has been frosty at best.

Clinton is blamed for forcing Cuomo out of the NY gov election by supporting his primary opponent.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:54 PM
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17. Has he never heard the name Kucinich?
Or does he not consider the good man from Ohio to be worthy of his consideration?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:56 PM
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22. probably not
i mean, come on.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 05:31 PM
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25. I'd agree with that. Edwards seems to be walking the walk and laying it on the
line.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 05:54 PM
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27. Supreme Courth justice
he turned down Clinton's nomination so he could lose in re-election.

Maybe if he bribes Clark like, Ike bribed Warren, then he could get back on the Supreme court if he wants.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:06 PM
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28. You can't resist...ever.
Clark doesn't take bribes, maybe your candidate does.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:13 PM
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30. No, Ike bribed Warren to get the votes for the GOP nom
Clark will need a lot of help if he wants the Dem nomination.

Warren was governor of California and gave all his delegates and support to Ike in exchange for the Supreme Court nomination.

Clark would need a lot of quid pro quo from Democrat politicians because he is a neophyte with no loyalists. He could promise cabinet positions, supreme court positions, etc. for prominent fundraisers, politicians, etc.

Clark will do the bribing, not taking the bribes.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:23 PM
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31. Frankly it's going to be Edwards who's more likely to bribe
or beg or pander like he did to get on Kerry's ticket in 2004. Clark's not running, and yet as I said, you can't resist.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:07 PM
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34. Clarks not running?
maybe he is in HRC's pocket?
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