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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:31 PM
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Edwards' Haircuts Cost a Pretty Penny
Source: Associated Press

Edwards' Haircuts Cost a Pretty Penny
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Apr 17, 8:10 PM (ET)

By JOAN LOWY

WASHINGTON (AP) - Looking pretty is costing John Edwards' presidential campaign a lot of pennies. The Democrat's campaign committee picked up the tab for two haircuts at $400 each by celebrity stylist Joseph Torrenueva of Beverly Hills, Calif., according to a financial report filed with the Federal Election Commission.

FEC records show Edwards also availed himself of $250 in services from a trendy salon and spa in Dubuque, Iowa, and $225 in services from the Pink Sapphire in Manchester, N.H., which is described on its Web site as "a unique boutique for the mind, body and face" that caters mostly to women.

A spokeswoman for Edwards' campaign did not respond to requests for comment.


The Joseph Torrenueva hair styling salon is located on the lower level of a this office building in Beverly Hills, Calif., Tuesday, April 17, 2007. Looking pretty is costing John Edwards' presidential campaign a lot of pennies. The Democrat's campaign committee picked up the tab for two haircuts at $400 each by celebrity stylist Torrenueva, according to a financial report filed with the Federal Election Commission. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon)

Torrenueva - who specializes in men's haircuts - confirmed in an interview with The Associated Press that Edwards is a longtime client and friend.

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070418/D8OIM4C00.html
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:31 PM
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1. I seriously fail to see how the fuck this matters at all
NT
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:33 PM
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5. Amen, Wind...Amen.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:33 PM
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6. So
will this turn out to be a lie like the story about Clinton stopping traffic at LAX to get a thousand dollar haircut?

smear, smear, smear.

Late breaking news, alrighty.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:34 PM
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7. I suppose it would really only matter, if it were Hillary instead of anybody else. nt
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:37 PM
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13. given the amount of smear already, it wouldn't suprise me
Look, if I was in his shoes, lord knows I wouldn't spend that much on a haircut. But I'm not going to judge his ability to be president of the united fucking states based on his expensive hair.

These stories are stupid fluff pieces that should have 0 weight on the decision to support/not support him.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:03 PM
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113. Actually, no
The vile NY Post pushed this "story". The article included HRCs hairstyling expenses in the same article as Edwards:

"Last summer, The Post broke the story that now-Democratic presidential front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ponied up nearly $3,000 in campaign cash for her blond tresses from acclaimed D.C. stylist Isabelle Goetz."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04172007/news/nationalnews/johns_400_trim_nationalnews_ian_bishop.htm

It seems that Edwards has been singled out here, for some reason.
It's all RW garbage anyway, but it is odd that Edwards is the sole topic.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:20 PM
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114. Edwards had to pay the stylist for travel expenses and time away from the shop
He basically had to pay the stylist for all the haircuts that the stylist couldn't do while away from the shop *and* the travel expenses, plus Edwards's own haircut.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:41 PM
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22. The use of the word PRETTY tells us who planted this. The same bastards who planted the tape on
YOUTUBE during the last go round, the "I feel pretty" tape.

Jesus, they aren't even subtle. This is an RNC op, plain and simple.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:08 PM
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76. Funny how this one hasn't made the rounds
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 09:18 PM by kskiska


or this…

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:42 PM
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25. It wouldn't except that "two America's" has been his central theme
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 07:46 PM by depakid
If he can't see that people will look at this sort of thing and think: "hmm, this seems a little like hypocrisy," then it seems to me that raises some questions about his judgment.

This isn't the first instance of this- and unfortunately, I doubt it will be the last.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:45 PM
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27. It still has ZERO weight on his ability to lead as President
I'm voting for the man who will enact BADLY needed poverty reform, and he'll do it. I don't care if he has a 5$ hair cut or a 250$ one.

So, again, this is just a fluff piece to distract people from the actual issues.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:50 PM
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34. It's not what you think- or even I think about the $$$ haircut
It's about his judgment. Now maybe he doesn't care what people think- but there will be a set of folks who will look at this and roll their eyes.

Bottom line is that extravagances are inconsistent with his message- and as a trial lawyer, it's hard for me to understand why he can't seem to grasp the symbolism there. Or the fact that it WILL be used effectively against him.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:16 PM
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45. No, it's coming from people who are desperate for *anything* remotely negative
But whatevs.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:24 PM
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48. I agree
You know that they're going to do it- and that the echo chamber is going to parrot it. So there's no sense in giving them ammunition over something so stupid as a haircut.

That's what baffles me.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:32 PM
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52. I disagree
please point me to the other campaigns that are funding their candidates hairstyles or to any indication that that is the norm. Forget about the fact that its a ridiculous amount of money on a hair cut and massages from a guy who claims to be a small town guy.

If he paid for it out of his pocket and it was released it would still stink of hypocrisy, the fact that the campaign is paying for it with money donated by people looking to help improve poverty only makes matters worse.

I agree with the poster above this speaks directly to his judgment and I find it lacking.
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 06:37 PM
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122. Exactly.
I already questioned his judgement for co-sponsoring the IWR and voting for the Patriot Act. This and the house confirms it for me.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:07 PM
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118. Is there a reason why you think Obama would not enact....
...badly needed poverty reform, as well?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:50 PM
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32. What an asinine statement. One of the richest Presidents ever, FDR, did more for the poor than
any of his predecessors. And no one ever suggested that he save his cigar ends, or Eleanor buy butt ends at the deli.

What, if you have money you can't have EMPATHY?

Tell that to Ted Kennedy.

Hell, people who HAVE money are freed from the avarice and greed of trying to grub after more of it. They're able to better concentrate on real issues that affect real people.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:54 PM
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36. You watch- this sort of thing will come back to haunt him
It's early now, but down the line when he's really in the fishbowl, little things like this take on a life of their own.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:36 PM
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56. Your right
but I doubt he will ever make it far enough to have it really affect his campaign. He is a small fish in a big pool if you ask me and while he has name recognition going for him in several places, he will not be our nominee.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:02 AM
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107. Ahhh....now I understand why you care so much. n/t
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:34 PM
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54. the post you referance doesnt say anything
about saving cigar ends.

Its a long stretch from saving cigar ends to cutting out $400 haircuts.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:50 PM
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33. Yea! Why doesn't he go to the barber college
like you do.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:59 AM
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106. Don't be so naive.
Your comment is right out of Rove's play book. I thought we were better...and smarter...than than.

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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:33 PM
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2. So.........and?
What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:33 PM
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3. Mighty unkind treatment of a pro-Union Democrat if you ask me.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:34 PM
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8. Agreed
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:11 PM
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41. And desperate too....
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 08:12 PM by waiting for hope
His Haircut???? Didn't they do the same to Bubba? My goodness, can't they find anything else to snivel about? Guess not.....his doesn't have a second or third wife, isn't on video being all flippity floppity, doesn't text message teenage boys, and damn it, he hasn't looked at a 10 minute footage of a trial and predicted the outcome....hummm, I think they are a tad bit frightnend...

On Edit: Sorry - Hiya OC!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:06 PM
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75. Hey Waiting for Hope -- hi to ya & you know what?
It's a lot more difficult for Gore to hop in when the top three Democrats in the race so far have considerable cash and name recognition, not to mentionorganizational support.

One notes the Al Gore image in the OP's post field and wonders if this might be an attempt to clear a path for an entry by the former vice president.

I think Gore may yet jump in, and may even rise to contention.

But he's going to have to fight for it.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:11 PM
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120. I agree
You would have to be really desperate to attack a guy just because of his haircut.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:33 PM
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4. Planted Hit Pieces.
Edwards scares the repugs .... so watch for tons of hit pieces on him.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:35 PM
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9. not news...just another smear piece
:puke:
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:35 PM
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10. Why should the campaign pay for his haircuts??
He earned his money, and if he wants to pay for $400 haircuts, that's his business. But the money I, and so many others, donate should be going to buy ad time. JMHO
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:38 PM
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14. Perhaps he'll start paying for them out of his own pocket now that this smear has been printed.
Probably for the best.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:27 PM
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50. This is the point, not his apparent taste for expensive haircuts
It's incredible that he would open himself up to all this ridicule by charging personal care expenses to the campaign, and that he would use funds for that purpose in the first place.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:50 PM
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70. Agreed --poor judgment, IMO--appearances mean a lot.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:39 PM
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59. That's my point, exactly.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:36 PM
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11. GASP! This is horrible!
Someone call the grooming police at once. Much ado about nothing.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:37 PM
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12. Edwards is so screwn!!11!!1111!!!!!
n/t.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:38 PM
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15. not LBN by any measure
and no news to anyone except folks who want to make something out of nothing.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:41 PM
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24. Especially since it was linked by drudge yesterday.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:45 PM
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28. yep, and Rush spouted about it all day, too - so I've read on DU n/t
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:38 PM
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16. Shit like this provided the inspiration for my username
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 07:42 PM by Cirque du So-What
The article has a breathless, desperate quality to it; the 'pugs fear John Edwards - and it shows in hit pieces like this one.

I love the smell of flopsweat in the morning. It smells like...victory!
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:41 PM
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21. I hadn't seen your name before
It's poifect! :rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:46 PM
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29. It's a good name, btw...if there were more available letters,
Cirque de So-the-fuck-what really sums up the games of distraction the RNC are playing lately.

I agree with you, too, that they fear the guy. If either of the top two (Hillary/Obama) newsmakers slips in the polls, for whatever reason, or chooses to bow out, he's raised on high as the clear default. He has the most name recognition, he has a good message, and he has experience campaigning that is invaluable. And if he hits it out of the park at the debates, that could change the dynamic entirely. He's in it, as much as any of the others.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:12 PM
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42. I love your username!
:rofl: :toast:

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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:39 PM
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17. Uncle Dick gets his for half price;
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 07:44 PM by jedr
But if he offers you a shot and a beer ...look out ... Talking points seem to be getting as thin as Chaney's hair....Haven't we been through this one before? wtf:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:40 PM
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19. "shot and a beer", or vice-versa, right Harry?
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:49 PM
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30. I love that "in your face" attitude.......n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:39 PM
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18. I'm sure the usual RW suspects will be all over this
They live to spew this kind of stuff....................
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:40 PM
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20. IF true, Edwards should know better than this... eom
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:41 PM
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23. Perhaps it isn't the best time to mention Al Gore's consultation of
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 07:50 PM by Old Crusoe
Naomi Wolf to help determine his image for the 2000 campaign.

I wouldn't want to distract from a healthy discussion of the issues.


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By MAUREEN DOWD
Maureen Dowd Op-Ed column on Vice Pres Al Gore's hiring of feminist author Naomi Wolf to help him project more forceful and aggressive image
November 3, 1999 Opinion Op-Ed
MORE ON NAOMI WOLF AND: BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION, PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 2000
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:44 PM
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26. so, AP------is this 'news" of value? NO NO NO NO
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:50 PM
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31. I rated it the lowest here on yahoo:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:52 PM
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35. Average (8 votes) 3.4 stars
RECOMMEND THIS STORY

Recommend It:

Average (8 votes)
3.4 stars
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:55 PM
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37. Somehow this matters to...um...to...um...um....
NOBODY!

If John Edwards wants to pay someone $400 to cut his hair, I say go for it. It probably helps the hairdresser get to pay for a stinkin' month of healthcare for themselves...or perhaps a small payment towards a college education for their kid.

Hey, it's his money...




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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:32 PM
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51. No it's not, it's the campaign's money
and therein lies the problem. If it were his money there would have been no FEC filing, no story.

Rich man uses donor money to pay for expensive haircut. Two Americas indeed, responds a cynical public.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:45 PM
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65. I still fail to see how this matters...
Granted, it's not the smartest thing to have come out, but appearance is certainly something that could be seen as part of a package when running for President.

How people deduct things for business is certainly all over the place...\\\


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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:01 PM
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74. I donated $100 to Obama today
The good news is he goes to a neighborhood barber and that probably buys him four haircuts.

The really good news (I trust and hope) is he pays for his own haircuts and that the money will go toward something that truly advances his campaign.

HOWEVER, you raise an interesting point about business-related expenses. We know Edwards sees his hair as a major asset (and, damn, the lad does have some seriously good hair), so, in his mind, the haircut is part of the package, and of course he's right to charge hair maintenance to the campaign. Unfortunately for him, he just threw a bunch of dry wood on the pretty-boy stereotype bonfire and probably pissed off more than a few of his small donors.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:09 PM
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78. Excellent post, Beyond!
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:04 PM
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38. Now we know what Dubya's problem is...
Shave and a haircut, two bits.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:07 PM
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39. The messinger is dead :-)

I only posted the news story. This way over coffee at work tomorrow if it comes up, you will know what the story said. Edwards is a fine candidate I have met twice thanks to AFSCME.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:11 PM
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40. Worth every penny, too.. he's gorgeous (and extremely Presidential!).
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:13 PM
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43. how much does Guiliani spend on bras?
I need something for comparison.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:35 PM
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55. I don't know, but that guy is HOT in drag.
HOT.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:15 PM
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44. The reich must be running out of lies...remember Clinton's haircut?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:18 PM
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46. Is THAT all they can find to complain about? HA!

How freaking petty.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:20 PM
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47. LIES - Barry Gibb wouldn't have to spend $250 to get his hair
taken care of in Dubuque!! Maybe Edwards left a huge tip, but there's no way in hell he paid anywhere near that for a haircut!!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:26 PM
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49. Whoa this doesn't bother most of you?
It sure as hell bothers me.

I do not donate to political campaigns for personal grooming or spa treatments. The guys frigging rich if he wants a $400 haircut by all means pay for em but theres a whole lot of people out there on his little person express thats scraped together $20 to help him get into office. I doubt a majority of those people will shrug it off as lightly.

Pretty hard to pull off the small town boy schtick when you are living a celebrity lifestyle.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:41 PM
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61. I have to agree with you
It doesn't bother me that he spends $400 on a haircut. What bothers me is that he used money that was donated for his campaign. He can certainly pay whatever he wants to pay with his own, personal money. That's his perogative. However, if I donate money to a campaign (and I have not donated to Edwards' campaign), I expect the money to be used for campaign expenses, not for haircuts and spa visits. That should come out of his own personal money.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:44 PM
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64. Thanks!
Thought I was losing my mind there for a sec.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:48 PM
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68. I was surprised you were the first one who pointed that out, actually
I was out for a walk with a friend earlier (before I fell and bumped my head on the sidewalk -- but that's a story for another time) and this is exactly what I told her. She hadn't heard about the haircut yet.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:14 PM
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79. Should've thought that one out imo
He's already had to explain the big energy-gulping house.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:34 PM
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53. I'm waiting for the payoff and I'm not seeing it.
So he gets expensives haircuts and.......then the story goes nowhere. Who cares?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:38 PM
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57. Probably not as much as Bush's secure
backpack at the debate ...
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:38 PM
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58. SO F*%#ING WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How does the price of his haircuts or his new house or anything else he does for hiomself affect what sort of a President he would be??!!

These is the sort of attacks I would expect from the other side, like when they bitched about Clinton holding up the flights at LA when he got a haircut.

Rome's burning, folks, and we need to stop fiddling. Compared with what the * Regime is doing now, this is definitely a lot of small shit.



:mad: :puke:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:41 PM
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60. Using $400 in donations for a haircut? I wish Obama and the other are not doing such thing!
They should be paying for those things with their own $$$.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #60
63. Amen !
Thought I was going crazy for a minute with everyone here thinking this kind of crap is ok.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:56 PM
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85. There is no comparison.
The regime is made up of thugs and thieves ~ this is the side of the angels!

I have to say though that the video of Edwards fixing his hair is a bit icky ~ I've heard it was a spoof.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:43 PM
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62. Big Dog's haircuts cost a pretty penny too, and look at how well he did as President!
As to Hillary, she will do well to start using Nancy Pelosi's hairdresser, and go shopping for clothes with our Madam Speaker.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:45 PM
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66. did he pay for it with campaign donations too?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. He was already president
There was a big ruckus when he had a hairdresser come to Airforce 1 to give him a $200 haircut.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:50 PM
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71. So he did not pay for him with campaign donations then.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:56 PM
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72. Thats implied I think
I honestly don't know. I remember that flack at the time but I don't remember what the end results were.

Again if its out of his own pocket I couldn't care less what he spends, but like you using campaign funds for that sort of extravagance is not only politically stupid but I find it morally disgusting.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:08 PM
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77. Yes, I thought that would be obvious
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shortcake Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 09:31 AM
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111. Yes, thank you. n/t
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:14 PM
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80. What other kinds of things are paid for by campaign donations?
If you are in LA and getting ready to go on TV and need your hair done...what exactly DOES our campaign donations pay for?
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:14 PM
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81. dupe
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 09:15 PM by renie408
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:46 PM
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67. Where are his Republican values?
If he was embezzling his campaign funds to put his gay lover in a Manhatten penthouse, it'd be a non-story.

Thanks, though, I'll be looking for more thoughtful reporting from Ms. Lowy in the future. She's got a great future in the Republican corporate media.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:57 PM
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73. Note to self: Start training to become a Beverly Hills hair stylist!!
Day'em....I hope that price includes color for that much coin --- not that Edwards is losing sleep over it either way.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:21 PM
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82. It's simply the cost of doing business ...
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 09:26 PM by SaveOurDemocracy
The candidates are on a non-stop treadmill; making appearances, giving speeches, attending fund raising events. It's absolutely in their (and their supporters) best interests to be well groomed, appear unruffled, energetic and well-rested as they race around the country keeping these impossible personal appearance schedules. Who will vote for an ill-kempt, shoddy looking candidate, with eye-bags down to their chins, asleep in their soup?

GET REAL!
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:22 PM
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83. It is obscene to pay that much for a haircut.
I'd rather give $380 to charity. I guess Edwards feels differently.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:35 PM
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84. No it's not!
Tools of the trade can cost thousands a years. Staying current can cost thousands too. And then there are all the other expenses of running a business that have to payed as well.

It's the 12.00 haircuts that are obscene. No one can make a living wage giving 12.00 haircuts for a corporate chain salon.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:58 PM
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86. Thousands of barbershops across the nation do.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:02 PM
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88. I understand the point
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 10:08 PM by depakid
and I don't think anyone's suggesting he go to supercuts. $400 though is way high end for his hairstyle.... that you'll have to admit.

On an aside note, I lived with a cosmetologist some years back. Around Christmastime, she started dropping hints about a certain set of scissors she "sure could use."

So I went to a professional beauty supply place and found the little things. I figured, yeah these are cool, and asked the price-

Damn, was that a wake up call!

(Then again, these are precision instruments- so I guess I shouldn't have been so surprised).
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:28 PM
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98. It's not way too much for his hairstyle. It's what the market will bare.
He wanted to have a particular stylist cut his hair and that is the price he had to pay for that particular person to cut his hair. One doesn't get to open shop and start doing such expensive hair cuts. The stylist has earned a reputation that allows him to charge what he does.

My guess that it's not just a haircut but a color too. John Edwards has much less gray than a typical man his age. Not that it's impossible for that to be natural but it is very unlikely. The only people I've seen who are over 50 that had no gray hair where people who tinted their hair. If he is coloring his hair his stylist is doing an awesome job.

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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:01 PM
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87. The 'swiftboating ' of Edawrds
this must mean that Edwards is the guy to 'swiftboat.'
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:06 PM
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89. I dont see how
He doesnt have a chance in the first place. Why waste the effort?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:13 PM
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90. And you know this, how? n/t
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:14 PM
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92. Just my opinion
I would be willing to bet on it though ... you?
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:13 AM
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108. Someone clearly has an agenda here.
I doubt if the haircut bothers anyone that much. It is an opportunity to spout off right wing smear tactics against a fellow Democrat. Why in the world would we do that?

I find it VERY disappointing. I support Edwards but I don't fall in line with republicans against the other Democratic candidates I'm not supporting.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:13 PM
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91. This is not swiftboating
It may be embarrasing - but it is from the FEC report and it is not illegal. If there is an alternate explanation, they can provide it.

SBVT used flat out lies that questions the sacrifice that Kerry made for his country. Saying that Edwards used camppaign money for 2 $400 hair cuts when the FEC record says so is
1) True
2) Fair - it is true
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:14 PM
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93. Exactly.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:17 PM
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94. Well....
The price of a hair cut is "relative"......but a great haircut is priceless!
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maggiegault Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:22 PM
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95. So what? I mean that sincerely. So the hell what?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:24 PM
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96. Donated campaign money used for $400 haircuts.
That's the issue.
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maggiegault Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:26 PM
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97. The man has to look good. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Looking good costs money.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:28 PM
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99. Yeah... but donated money?
What about him paying out of his own pocket for his $400 haircuts?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:32 PM
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100. Plu-Eaze........
if one has to pay $400 on a haircut to look good, that's kinda of sad, IMO....and I don't believe it for one minute! I know plenty of folks that look more than excellent, and pay not more than $25.00 for a haircut. Really!
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maggiegault Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:41 AM
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103. Well, I Cut My Own Hair, So You Might Have A Point...
...back in 1989 and 1990, I was a hair model for Vidal Sassoon. They cut and colored me, I paid attention.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:48 PM
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101. Jeeze the Republicans are *extremely* scared of Edwards to be putting this out during the primary.nt
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:59 PM
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102. $400?? What did they do, cut it one hair at a time?
They should at least put him in dreads for that king of money. Ouch!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:56 AM
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104. Two Americas indeed! If you can't pay $400 per haircut, you're not in "the ruling class" America.
If Edwards can't think such actions through and employ common sense, then he's lost touch with "the peasant class" America. :shrug:
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:17 AM
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105. Between This And The Mc Mansion Edwards Is Sinking Fast!
Out of touch with the people!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:11 PM
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119. Sinking among people who wouldn't vote for him anyway.
I don't think it will hurt him with his supporters.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:23 AM
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109. Whatever, Hillary.
Sheesh.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:53 AM
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110. The feminization of John Edwards
Hadn't you noticed the reference to the womens' salons. This will be one of the major attack strategies of the reich-wing media. They have stated this already in their talking points.

Turn it around. Investigate Sam Brownback and find out who does his hair.

I can see the headline now:

Sam Brownback supports gay marriage. lol
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:07 AM
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112. oh, i get it. Clinton haircuts, Edwards haircuts......... pulleeeze!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:30 PM
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115. this merely exposes how desperate they are
a haircut is not news. it isn't a 'scanda'. there ARE some genuine scandals out there though, every single one of which are white house/republican scandals.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:45 PM
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116. So? Every DUer has that kind of money to toss around too.What's the big deal?
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:45 PM
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117. I'm pissed
If he wants a $400 haircut, do it with his own money not DONATED money for his CAMPAIGN that people intended for ad buys, etc.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 06:26 PM
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121. It made the local oldies station news this morning

But then I am in a red state.
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 06:47 PM
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123. Nobody should give a rats' patout; besides, if he came to my
daughters shop, she does Mens' Haircuts for $25 that look just as good. However, factor in travel and the cost does go up a bit.;)
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