If Bush and Cheney were impeached and removed from office

What if they refused to go ?

What enforcement mechanism does the Constitution have for imposing the removal ?

Even as his support shrinks daily, still Bush pretends as if he has 70%...He ignores all laws and knows we are helpless to stop him, he keeps rolling against the peoples will (fascism) and has a complacent, complicit wealthy corporate media also pretending Bush has a large support. BushCo won't turn over any records even with court orders...

One can just see Cheney snarling saying fuck them what are they going to do, we have the courts...and if we didn't so what we'll just use the media to announce "Executive Privilege" they know we can't do anything...Just look at Bush's favorite criminal, (besides Rove) Gonzales, his brother in killing & torture (as in Texas) just waiting it out and saying fuck 'em. They break law after law, despise the Constitution and then cloud it all with bullshit...They planned this and know this! And they know they can just keep rolling on along.

WH to remove these two forcibly. With Laura running around at the last minute, grabbing her prescription bottles and hidden booze.

With full control of the red button. Why would they resist aiming bombs at the White House Pelosi occupies? There is nothing I would put past Cheney and Bush. The only reason I don't think they'd nuke DC is because they need the Pentagon on their side.

squatting in the white house don't mean squat.

of course, if the military refused to listen to pelosi, well, that would be a military coup.

The Constitution says that if POTUS/VP aren't able to discharge their duties, the Speaker is President - and that will happen no matter what they pretend to be. And in accusing her of running "a shadow presidency" 9the Syria trip), they showed they are afraid of it.

In eternal dispora. :scared: It could happen.

you really think the constitution specifies what to do in a case like this?

A case like this would never happen. NEVER EVER IN A MILLION YEARS.

But to your credit, you're not the first person to ask that here. :eyes:

About this cabal only to have them prove us wrong. Never say never again.

it's nuts.

I know it's "cool" to come up with the most extreme scenario possible and pass it off as something these guys would do, but it's totally irrational.

So what happens? They're impeached and removed... and what? Bush won't leave the White House?

There is a new President, the Secret Service has abandoned him, the military no longer answers to him, and... what? You think he barricades himself in the Oval Office and there's no recourse?

It would NEVER HAPPEN IN A MILLION YEARS!!!!!

People here speculated in '04 that Bush would lose and refuse to leave the White House. It's just fantasy bullshit.

to hang my foot up their A_ _?

There are ways and there are ways.

There are also ways to avoid impeachment...like staging another false flag attack or pulling out those wiretap transcripts on the wavering Republicans.

they would be the ones more likely to enforce the law. But you are correct about bush not leaving no matter what. He and cheney think they are above the law. And I would not doubt it one bit if he was impeached and say he is not going along, because he is the president and he is the LAW>

"... we have concluded that, while the document calls for 'removal' of the convicted officer, no mechanism or time-frame is specified for what we can all agree must be an orderly removal. With no guiding precedent -- and particularly with The Nation At War -- we have determined that Mr. Bush has the inherent Urinary Executive Authority** to direct the Department of Justice to determine that mechanism and time-frame.

"Until such lawful determination is made -- by Attorney General Olson, in consultation with Justice Roberts, Justice Scalia, and others -- our National Peril demands that the function of Commander in Chief not be disrupted -- lest our soldiers around this evil-infested globe immediately remove their uniforms and run naked for the nearest border."

"And as always, try to be a little more afraid than yesterday."

B.O.Y.S. Committee Co-Chairs

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** Urinary Executive or Urinary Authoritarian Executive (slang, DCspeak) n., (en)title -- the "newly-discovered," or "inherent" (i.e., faith-based) Constitutional Authority for an appointed ruler (as opposed to elected leader) to piss down the back of the American People and tell them it's raining.

See also, Trickle-Down Economics

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I dont' really understand your question.
If they were impeached, convicted, & removed from office, the law of the land is that they have no power, no matter how childish they act.

Are you envisioning some kind of barricade-the-white-house-doors scenario?

He could take some Marshals and some SS too. I think it would be much easier to remove them than to impeach them.

-Hoot

sure Pelosi doesn't gain the presidency by default.

has to do is nothing and there's no VP. That's happened several
times before. If there's no VP, and Bush is out, Pelosi is President.

If they were, they'd be Republicans.

way for a reason--so the Executive Branch could be
wrested from the control of madmen by the legislature.

That's the situation we have now.

public gives the full blessing for that move.

However, I'm glad our forefathers thought about the possibility that we would eventually encounter a George Bush president.

to the public what the issues are.

one thing about the military in this country, it serves the president, not necessarily the Bush.

I don't think there would be a constitutional crisis where part of the military supports Bush and another part Congress/Pelosi.

Jack Daniels, wandering around talking to portraits,
threatening to kill himself, making rambling phone
calls carried on national TV, finally staggers out
to puke his brains out in the Rose Garden.

Tar and Feathers! And then to The Hague!

If you're talking about just not leaving the official residence (White House) -- a separate issue -- the Park Service could send in a ranger to arrest him for trespassing. (Personally, I prefer that option because of the ignominy of it.) The Secret Service might accompany him to protect his safety (as FORMER Pres.) but would be under no obligation to prevent his eviction from the premises. I am sure that if need be they could be deputized to the Park Service, the Capitol Police, or the U.S. Marshalls' Office to aid in his arrest.

Answer: calimary would be doing the HAPPY DANCE!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

If his support had deteriorated so much that 2/3 of the Senate would vote to convict him, then he wouldn't have control of the Secret Service or the Army anymore. Generals barely support him now, they'd never be on board with a military coup.

the generals who have already once tried to orchestrate a peaceful COUP over the white house will try it again.
4-5 retired generals to be exact.

so that's the only real angle. it has to come from military General level or if it starts with any other group (cia/fbi/police) will be crushed by Bush's pulling in the military.

** the funny part is Bush has pissed off so many generals who actually do believe the war in Iraq is now fully a joke and besmirches their years of honorable service, it's really a matter of time before this coup happens.


I personally believe such a coup has been why we keep hearing about delays of cheney trips in australia, afghanistan and other places he visits.

mostly I believe the # of people in the white house who still support Bush and in the pentagon can be counted on one hand. The rest are doing serious damage control and/or getting a lawyer for when bush exits and the dems get full subpoena and a judiciary back to prosecute again. just a matter of time before we have 1000 jack abramoff cases of folks in jail. just a matter of time before bush himself is held accountable in "The Hague"


which is why Bush has to support Gonzales. he's the last straw left in Bush's house of broken camel's backs
** and whoever starts this will have to contend with blackwater (Bush and Carlyle's personal worldwide police force).