Hillary would beat Giuliani?

If he does, he will lose by double digits.

her negatives keep rising. If this changes then I will change my vote.
She is just not really connecting with people in head to head match ups yet.

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would crush Giuliani and any of those match-ups would help out down-ballot big time. Obama would beat Giuliani handily. I think HRC would probably beat him too.

But it was from last month. I'd like to see one that takes into consideration his latest remarks. I doubt it would change much. PA is a red state with two large blue areas that are very tepid on Hillary. Rudy wins PA against her and that means he wins the election.

PA is not a red state like what you think, we are a swing state through and through. Dems dominated in the east and west and Repubicans dominated the rural central PA.

Yeah were a red state, that's why we just elected a dem for our Senator by a wopping 59 PERCENT, Dems picked up a few seats in Congress there and the Democrats just took over the State House.

Get your facts straight man.

Santorum was an aberration. I'd put money on Hillary losing this state, a lot of money. My facts are fine.

You facts are right on the money, Hillary would lose PA. You can take that to the bank.

Check the polling data out there. Last time I looked, Rudy beat Hillary......

Here in Texas, deep in Red State territory, the choice of Rudy vs. Hillary wouldn't be a happy one, but Rudy being on the GOP would be enough.

I don't think Hillary could do well in Texas with Jesus as her running mate.

expanse of Red States.

I DO think that a "thinking Democrat" should be looking for someone who has some hope of being competitive in a least a few of the perennial Red States.

HRC is not that someone in my humble opinion.

Rudy would appeal to moderates while Hillary, despite her best pandering, would not only fail miserably to attract moderates but also alienate the base. That match up would be a total disaster.

and guess what? His "ho", would bring home the prize (I'm sorry it's offensive, but I think it's true).

Hillary would lose Iowa, New Mexico, PA, FL, OH, make states like MI, and WI competitive...Hell, I think it'd put NJ and NH into play as well. LOL, it's funny when people talk about MT and VA being states to look to in the future, while at same time they back Hillary's nomination. Does anyone really think Hillary could appeal to Tester and Webb voters? Electorally, I think Giuliani would have a comfortable win.

Seriously, I can't think of WHO Hillary appeals to, aside from some very out of touch "geniuses" at the DLC (who like her because she panders to the right and has the last name of "Clinton") and some in the party that want to see a woman nominated regardless of her politics. I'd loved to be clued in who else she'd win over.

this is in now way an endorsement btw, i'm pointing out experience level, Rudy was a local politician and running for president is a whole nutha ballgame.