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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 08:52 PM
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How dare Edwards feature a lesbian who works for the HRC in his ad?
Edited on Sun May-06-07 08:58 PM by dsc
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3136504&page=1

Edwards made an ad. He had the temerrity to feature a lesbian who works for the HRC in it. Evidently lesbians aren't real people anymore. At least, not if they work for the HRC. I guess the question becomes, at what point do political activists lose their status as people? Shame on Edwards for featuring a lesbian in his ad, after all, we know Edwards should have used real people.

:sarcasm:
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 08:57 PM
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1. I Am SICK Of This Edwards Bashing
you want to question his IWR vote? Fine. He's apologized, but if that apology is insufficient for you, then I understand. However, I wonder what you hope to accomplish by your criticism. Same for any other vote he's made. Legitimate issues.

Why not question his policies or proposals rather than attacking his house, his hair or the way he runs his campaign?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 08:58 PM
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2. I guess I needed a sarcasm label
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 08:59 PM
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3. Um...it's not you
I don't see how you could have been more clear. :)
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:01 PM
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6. are you a Marlena Deitrich fan?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 02:18 PM
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39. You betcha
:)
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:04 PM
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8. LOL I think it was just the amount of post attacking Edwards today
that caused the poster not to read it in it's entirety...
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:35 PM
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19. My Apologies, dsc
Edited on Sun May-06-07 09:36 PM by iamjoy
I recognized that YOU were being sarcastic, but I am tired of the way every one else is so nitpicky when they bash Edwards
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:00 PM
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4. I'm not quite sure if you are
being sarcastic or genuinely outraged, if you are outraged, read it a bit more:

"They all volunteered to appear on camera, and none were paid for their services, he said."....

I don't see an issue with that.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:02 PM
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7. I really do give up
Clearly I don't type English, it is as simple as that.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:05 PM
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9. dont give up, I realized it was in jest...
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:08 PM
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10. I posted my reply right
after you added your icon....from a sarcastic side, it's a pretty damn good post!

BTW: Sometimes, though, you just don't know.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:12 PM
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12. no problem
glad you liked the post.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:13 PM
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14. So true, have to admit I have reacted at things meant in jest with ire..
I'm sure we all have a time or two depending on our mood of the day...these days you take what humor you can because the reality is for far too many humor is just too limited considering the issues this world is facing daily for far too many and I honestly believe laughter to be something of a gift of sorts and you don't give back gifts, bad manners.
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edwardsfeingold08 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:15 PM
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15. No, you made a good point.
People are really sensitive about all the candidate bashing on here. I'm afraid to submit this because of all the hate directed at me for my screen name.

The sarcasm tag is a good call.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 09:35 PM
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44. You could not possibly have been clearer
Oh, well.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:00 PM
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5. You know all the Dems have to do to difuse this is the following
We have American citizens working for our campaign...and all American citizens are equal. End of story..
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:09 PM
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11. How Dare He....

Polictical Activist
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:12 PM
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13. "We The People" ad features 2 Washington insiders as "common folk" for Edwards.
The ABC piece criticizes the Edwards piece as being dishonest, not anti-gay.
The OP author should recognize such dishonesty.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:20 PM
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17. Why feature her
Edited on Sun May-06-07 09:21 PM by dsc
and not the other political pro if they weren't at least trying to fan anti gay flames? Sorry but I don't buy that featuring the lesbian in their little article was an accident. And on edit, why is someone who works for a gay rights organization not a common folk?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:32 PM
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18. Why isn't a DC insider "common folk"? Is that a real question?
Edited on Sun May-06-07 09:35 PM by MethuenProgressive
As you say, she's a "political pro"
Spinning this into "ABC hates gays!" is just plain silly.

The reliance on Washington insiders is particularly noteworthy for Edwards, because he has criticized D.C.-based consultants during his second run for the presidency.

"Consultants can make it hard to tell the truth," Edwards told Newsweek in February. "They want you to be so cautious it makes it hard to say anything."

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:39 PM
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22. I didn't hear about him criticizing consultants, its about time someone did..
I agree with him, having such makes it hard for people to be more truthful, I think they put fear in those they work for which is why they are fearful of being themselves, perhaps that job title should become null and void and lets just let the candidates themselves make the decisions on what to say or what not to say, would make it all more interesting I would think. Sometimes I feel that I am watching the "march of the wooden soldiers" when I hear politicians speak, just who talks like that all the time, so stiffly?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:37 AM
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31. How is she an insider?
To my knowledge the HRC didn't endorse Edwards nor take a position on the war. Thus even an employee of theirs is no more likely to be pro Edwards than anyone else.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:50 PM
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34.  "a top fundraiser for the Human Rights Campaign" based in D.C.
hence, as the story says: a D.C. insider.
If you don't want people to check your facts, perhaps you shouldn't supply links?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:26 PM
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40. There is a difference between a campaign employee
and a worker for the HRC. She is a worker for the HRC just like being a worker for a union or a company.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 06:33 PM
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42. This ad was great.
No one was being dishonest.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:18 PM
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16. They're everywhere! They're everywhere!
Soon those lesbians will be resistant to garlic and walking around in full sunlight! Quick, get a silver-tipped cane! :sarcasm:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:38 PM
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20. My favorite post at the article's website...
"At least two of the nine people" in this political ad live in Washington and are involved in ... politics?! NOOO! It can't be! What a shocking revelation! Instead of worrying about who is in the ad, Rick might want to consider the point of the ad. This ad is great, and the idea behind it is exactly right. The American people are on the side of John Edwards."

Posted by:
MeanBoneIII May-3


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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:38 PM
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21. Nutz
There is no mention of any lesbian anywhere.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:32 PM
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30. She's a top fundraiser for the Human Rights Campaign
which is a pro-gay/lesbian organization.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:42 PM
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23. but...but...it was so boneheaded!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:47 PM
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24. You should have let people hang a little longer before adding the sarcasm icon.
I hate the damn thing,myself.In fact,just to be safe,everyone should assume that I'm always being sarcastic.

Except when I'm not.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:50 PM
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25. You scare me, I have been reading yours for some time, not sure of you at all...
so it is safe to say that for me your safe in that you have me wondering all the time just whether you are serious or not which is why I would hesitate before responding to you...no malice intended, simply an observation and that was a safe post to respond to...

:think:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:03 PM
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26. that made my head hurt.
:)

I admit that I enjoy leaving a little to the imagination of the readers.I get amused watching people reach conclusions about me that are totally wrong,and I feel little urge to correct them usually,for the simple reason that I really don't care too much if people like me or not (you might have picked up on that already).If there's something you really wanted to know about me I'd give you a serious answer (mostly),but I'm not big on offering too much of myself to an unknown mass of crazy bastards like DU. :crazy:

In private I'm much more open...and even nice occasionally.And once someone is a close friend I will do anything for them.Until then though I like keep people at least an arm's length away.I've met some awesome people here,and my best friend is a great DUer,but I'm not here to make friends.If I was I'd only post in the Lounge.

If it makes you feel better,I'm 39 years old and my parents aren't sure of me at all either. :)
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:06 PM
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27. Lol, makes sense, but I saw you as younger, it is good to remain with
a youthful attitude, carry on, though I was serious about my observations of you I was just teasing you a bit.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:16 PM
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28. Well I've never been accused of acting my age for a reason.
Actually,your observations were pretty good,and closer than many others I've received,teasing or not. :)
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:27 PM
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29. What a bone head move by HRC.
They will hear from me tomorrow. She should be fired immediately. Good grief.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 06:21 PM
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41. Why?
She has every earthly right to support the candidate of her choice. I would be outraged if they did fire her.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 09:20 PM
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43. The HRC can not even appear to be partisan in the
run up to a major primary. Donations will dry up. Believe me, I am way down the scale on the anger level and importance level of folks who will contact the HRC.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:48 PM
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45. She is an employee, not a slave
Assuming she does it on her own time, I fail to see any problem here. I would equally assume that there are HRC employees who support Clinton, Obama, Kucinich, Biden, etc.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:34 PM
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47. Do you give money to the HRC? eom
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:59 PM
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49. I am not entirely sure that is your business
Edited on Wed May-09-07 08:13 PM by dsc
but I have in the past and do when I can. I stopped giving to them when they endorsed D'Amato but started up again when they went a cycle without endorsing a Republican running against a pro gay Democrat. On edit: I have no problem with their employees voting Republican on their own time, but I do have a problem with the organization doing so. If the HRC endorsed Edwards in the primaries I think it would be a mistake but I don't think an employee of theirs is a problem.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:29 PM
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32. Who/what is HRC?
Forgive me, I'm a Brit and all these acronyms get confusing.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:44 PM
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33. Human Rights Commission - great group working for Civil Rights for our
LGBTQ friends and family...

Here is there website: http://www.hrc.org/

In the 2006 election, HRC volunteers played a very important role in turning the U.S. Congress blue -- we had our very own HRC volunteer coordinator here in Indiana who organized busloads of HRC supporters to go door-to-door, make calls, and raise funds on behalf of progressive candidates.

:hi:
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:58 PM
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36. Thank you
Seems like a worthwhile group.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:56 PM
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35. They're the largest GLBT lobbying group in the U.S.
Edited on Mon May-07-07 01:57 PM by MethuenProgressive
Good guys, doing a lot of good work.
http://www.hrc.org/
From "Our Mission Statement"
HRC seeks to improve the lives of GLBT Americans by advocating for equal rights and benefits in the workplace, ensuring families are treated equally under the law and increasing public support among all Americans through innovative advocacy, education and outreach programs. HRC works to secure equal rights for GLBT individuals and families at the federal and state levels by lobbying elected officials, mobilizing grassroots supporters, educating Americans, investing strategically to elect fair-minded officials and partnering with other GLBT organizations.


From "What We Do: An Overview"
The Human Rights Campaign represents a grassroots force of more than 700,000 members and supporters nationwide— all committed to making this vision of equality a reality.


The person in the Edwards ad is described by ABC as an HRC top fund raiser.

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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:58 PM
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37. And thank you too n/t
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 02:06 PM
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38. Here I thought that you meant HRC=Hillary Rodham Clinton
Edited on Mon May-07-07 02:07 PM by Marnieworld
She's not my favorite candidate so at my first reading of "the" HRC I thought that you were referring to her as an entity which amused me. The Hillary. As in, "It puts the lotion on and then it puts it back in the bucket."

But after I found out what HRC stood for I understood. I still may call her the HRC now. It may be too hard to resist.

"The HRC" campaigns like it's 1992.

Yep feels right. :spank: :D
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:56 PM
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46. LOL, I like that
I'm gonna start using "The HRC" too. I really like it when "the" is used unnecessarily. Like, I live in DC, and technically, George Washington University is "The George Washington University" which I just find funny.

Also, when The HRC recently gave a speech at The HRC, she joked about having the same initials.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:59 PM
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48. he is just soooooooo decadent!
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:33 AM
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50. ...and eight other people.
If all the people in an advert intended to represent "the people" had been political activists from Washington, or members of any other single demographic, there would be a legitimate complaint to be made.
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