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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:55 PM
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Edwards supporters: Who is your second choice?
If Edwards dropped out of the race, whom would you support? Possibly Obama?

Just curious. I'm also curious if Obama supporters would support Edwards if Obama dropped out of the race, but let's save that for another thread.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:58 PM
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1. Kucinich
After that...no real preference.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:11 PM
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2. Don't know - I don't believe the others can win: HRC will energize the repukes like noone else just
to defeat her; Obama leaves me with same issue but also don't think he's ready yet. I really like DK's ideas, policies etc, but again no way he can win.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:57 PM
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4. You are 100% wrong. Hillary is our next president
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 02:09 PM
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20. Karnak lives!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:50 PM
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9. I am in full agreement, williesgirl. (nt)
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:00 PM
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10. Hillary will not get the nomination.
It's Edwards/Obama or nothing.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 02:19 PM
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22. A formidable ticket!
They've worked together on some issues and seem to get along well ~ it's not hard to imagine them as a team.
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Andrew_Lindsey Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:59 PM
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27. Lol.
Et tu greyghost?
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Andrew_Lindsey Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:58 PM
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26. This is what drives me crazy
No one else can win other than Edwards? Are you for real? What kind of fan-boy logic would lead you to believe that Edwards is the ONLY Dem that can beat whomever the r's throw at us in 08?

I am undecided at this time, but it is posts like these: Only X can win!!11!!! that make me seriously doubt the posters credibility.

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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:45 PM
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34. Then you are going to be...
in for a BIG surprise come primary season.:evilgrin:

These "who's the most popular" polls don't count for S*IT.

Edwards will win the primaries, Edwards will get the nomination, that is all.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:10 PM
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35. Good God, I hope not.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:13 AM
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40. Uh...
So the polls don't count for shit...but you, the all-knowing, are ready to declare that Edwards is going to get the nod?

I think he has plenty of hurdles to jump, and his supporter have plenty of people to sway, before anything is wrapped up.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:17 PM
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36. Whoa! I merely gave my opinion - your comment was unnecessary. I don't pretend to have a
crystal ball. Just my thoughts.
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Andrew_Lindsey Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:16 AM
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42. And I gave mine back?
I respect your post as your opinion, it just seems ridiculous to me to dismiss every other candidate this early in the race as unelectable.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:47 PM
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31. Energize and de-energize
Personally i was concerned about the party putting up anyone with strong negatives. It is very hard phone banking when you get to the hard sells. It is especially emotionally draining for some others I was working with. people would have to go home early after time in the trenches talking to hate-engulfed GOP
hardcases. I can't imagine how this will go on a presidential level but it has a literally depressive effect. Time, emotional energy, dropping out, more reliance than ever on big media bits.

Now anyone with negatives(such as being a Democrat!) makes the job hard. If the other guy is a known creep it makes it easier because the anger is mostly going the other way. A GOP ham sandwich like Romney
will be a softball. I guess personally I would stick with my great candidate Eric Massa who will be running hard for the House again- and with no dirty tricks AND some please God great ticket coattails will prevail in the Cheney-mandered repug district.

So I am one grassroots guy who wants the strongest possible, bragging rights ticket to bring to bear. Maybe I am mystified by the solid HRC support but for some reason- I hope not too prejudicial- I can't imagine phoning GOP women or even Dem women and having them swoon over Clinton. I can imagine the dreaded vitriol bath that might inflame the voter to go over the top from toleration to not voting Dem. The GOP strategy will take this into account with their own phone banks(crooked or not).

As a Civil War officer said on arriving first at Gettysburg, he can see the rebel gun implacements and forecast every detail of the Union slaughter should they not secure the favorable high ground then and there. The meaningless polls(that in a similar time showed Lieberman leading) have no sense of foresight at all, at how the public mood settles in inevitably during the actual choice time when the real campaign goes into intimate bloodletting. We were given similar upbeat forecasts for Gore and Kerry who admittedly were cheated, but how much cheating has actually been averted THIS time? It is not that I FEAR that HRC is a no go. Sure she could win in a sense and by the numbers. But it would be an unprecedented miracle if it is not going to be an ugly diminished and realistic affair that in retrospect will have us wonder what it is that fools us every single time into hoping that reality won't bite. I don't have to be happy that party organization and "planning" trumps grass roots, reality, the primary process itself by frontloading, common sense for personal advantage and enforces ideological retreat and timidity without really protecting our election process at all. All that before I get into personal preference for any candidate.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:46 PM
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3. Richardson
If NO AL Gore
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:07 PM
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5. Me too. President Gore; Vice President Richardson n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 02:21 PM
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23. Another amazing ticket!
I could also see Hillary choosing Richardson. We have such a fascinating field this time ~ yippee!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:36 PM
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6. Edward's barber. nt
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:35 PM
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12. What are his qualifications?
Is he planning to announce soon?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:48 PM
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18. been there
done that
Puke talking point
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:42 PM
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7. I'd probably vote for the Kooch in the primaries
but would happily vote for Obama in the general election if he were the nominee.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:49 PM
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8. Richardson, then Obama. Bob Graham for VP.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:09 PM
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11. Obama
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:36 AM
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13. Kucinich - not Obama
after yesterday's skipped vote
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:47 AM
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15. Missed Vote ...
There is one thing in politics which I view as similar to an immutable law of physics.
When it comes to any issues regarding either education or senior care (drugs-healthcare) it is NEVER the right thing to be on the other side of a vote from Kennedy.
Obamas missed vote appears to be in deference to Kennedy's request for support in aiding passage of his sponsored legislation.
Thats all I need to know.
Who do you trust will help you with healthcare issues?
Kennedy or Clinton?
Enough said.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:45 AM
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16. An Edwards supporter
criticising Obama for missing a Senate vote?!
Now that's rich.


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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:41 AM
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14. Kucinich ...
But I would consider Obama. Too early to see how the cards will fall but if your hinting at some alliance between Obama and Edwards, it would be a powerful force IMO
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:45 PM
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17. Obama n/t
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:51 PM
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19. Richardson
There's no way Obama is dropping out, not after the fundraising success he's had. He's in it for real.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 02:11 PM
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21. No one switching to Hillary?
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:55 PM
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24. i'll write in Oprah , she'll be Obama/Hillary in one and will have
a better chance in the general election.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:00 PM
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28. snaps for funny
and just a teensy bit true ...

not that that's a bad thing :)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:56 PM
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25. Al Gore.
Wait, he's my first choice.

Nevermind.

:)
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:25 PM
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29. Obama
Actually Kucinich is my first choice, Edwards second, Obama third.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:26 PM
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30. Obama
I like Hillary better than Obama but I'm desperate to win and IMO a woman is not well suited to win the presidency right now.

Any woman. I think the concerns about Hillary being polarizing and energizing the GOP are ridiculously overblown. I hang around with many backwards types in the Las Vegas sportsbooks who don't follow politics but the one thing they tell me is they are not voting for a woman for president. I'm afraid they are more representative than we want to believe.

And the vital states like Ohio, Florida and Virginia are still base conservative with no history of electing women to major offices.

I've had several of those guys tell me they like Edwards better than any recent Democrat, that they could support Obama, but no chance on Hillary.

I tend to take people at their word. I remember posting in DU in summer '04 that I had driven cross country and back and sampled opinion on John Kerry in convenience stores, etc, and that the opinion was generally negative. No one liked him other than partisan Democrats. I knew we were in big trouble.
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Andrew_Lindsey Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:48 PM
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32. What, no Clark?
Ha ha. I kid, I kid.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:26 PM
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33. Draft Clark again, no he can't decide and needs someone to decide
for him. Its ridiculous that he can't seem to commit. Most grown men not named Cuomo have never hedged so much on running for President. Its a rough job, but you need an iron stomach and full commitment.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:21 PM
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37. Edwards won't drop out--until it's clear someone else is getting the nomination
and that won't happen until next year.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 06:35 AM
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38. Wrong...
it's not going to happen at all.

Hillary doesn't play in the heartland, they see her for what she is.
I'm so happy that they do.:evilgrin:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:54 AM
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39. Actually, if it never becomes clear that someone else is getting the nomination
it means that Edwards is getting it and won't be dropping out!
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Andrew_Lindsey Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:15 AM
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41. Is Iowa the heartland?
Because she is playing pretty well here!
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:07 PM
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43. Hillary will not get the nomination...
Edited on Thu May-10-07 01:27 PM by greyghost
get used to it now. That way you won't be too disappointed.:evilgrin:

At any rate that's a good thing, the country doesn't need Bush Lite.
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Andrew_Lindsey Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:31 PM
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44. Oh, I won't be disappointed..
She isn't my candidate, I just think it comical when people write her off completely. I can see the signs around me and they all point to 1st-2nd place finish here in Iowa, at least for now. That isn't to say that things won't change, they certainly will, but you'd be surprised at the following she has here thus far.

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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:42 PM
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46. I ...
would be very surprised by a first place finish, I fully expect a second.

My point is that no one should buy into the MSM line that she's a lock.
She isn't playing as well in many areas as they would have you believe. I'm also very aware of how much time and $ Edwards has devoted to Iowa.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:37 PM
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45. Gravel or Clinton if Edwards is out.
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