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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:53 AM
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At Ballyhooed Reunion Of Top Gore Aides, A Strong Sense That Al Isn't Running

Last night a bunch of longtime aides to Al Gore held a much-ballyhooed reunion dinner that had prompted speculation about a Gore run in 2008 -- but the gathering in fact turned out to be an at-times personal and emotional gathering suffused with an acceptance among many that Gore won't run for President, a person who was there tells me.

"There was a consensus there that Al is not planning to run," this attendee says. "I wouldn't say that there are recriminations or that people are angry at him for not running. People are just accepting it. There was just an acceptance of the fact that they don't think he's going to run."

The tone of the dinner, which was held at the D.C. home of longtime Gore close friend and political ally Peter Knight, might prove disappointing to some. When word of the planned reunion broke last month, it was played in the press as a possible strategy powwow designed to assess a future run. But no such thing took place, our source says.

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http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/may/09/gore
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:59 AM
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1. It is about time Gore makes it official and states
one way or the other.

I have given up on him with the first debate. He is now just a Johnnie come lately if he runs.

The same goes for Clark...

:shrug: My first and second choices are sitting out 2008 :cry:
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:06 AM
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2. Yea I know

My dream team would be any duo of

Gore/Clark/Feingold

I wanted 2 of them, could settle for one (Gore or Russ, I like Wes as a balance) and it looks like Ill get none.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:57 AM
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6. He has stated it pretty unequivocably.
It's just that people keep parsing his words in hopes that they really mean "maybe", rather than accepting them at face value.

I wish Clark would make it official too. Much as I don't like to admit it, I don't think he could get in successfully this late in the game. :(
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:02 PM
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10. No, people like you keep second-guessing him.
How many times does Gore have to say "I haven't ruled it out yet" for people like you to realize he hasn't ruled it out yet?

"It's just that people keep parsing his words in hopes that they really mean "maybe", rather than accepting them at face value."

On the contrary - you're the only one parsing his words here, in hopes that he really means "no".
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 02:38 PM
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16. I haven't seen any references to Gore's saying "I haven't ruled it out yet".
I've heard him say (with my own ears) that he has no plans to run again.

I almost never weigh in on these discussions, so I don't know why I'm being called one of the people who "is constantly second guessing him". I wish that he would get in, since there's nobody in the current field who I feel has his combination of qualifications and good judgement, and would have a real shot. I'm just not seeing anything in his recent statements that suggests that's a likelihood.

Wes Clark is the one who has continually stated that he wasn't ruling it out, but unfortunately, I think it's probably too late for him to get in at this point.

I hope you're not trying to pick a fight with me, because I was not intending my post as a provocation or a diss, and I have no interest in picking a fight with you.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:00 PM
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9. Dude, Clinton didn't run until October 1991.
Give it time. If Gore runs, he'll do it in August or September, not now.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:42 PM
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17. Thanks for pointing this out - methinks it's totally ridiculous that the pres. election campaign now
runs for TWO FREAKIN' YEARS!! Jeebus H. Christ.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:26 AM
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3. I feel that Gore thinks
he has more important work than running for Prez this time.

Too bad for the corporatemediawhores..I'm sure they were just waiting to dust off their toxic arsenal from 2000 regarding Gore and the Internet..Gore and "lying", "Gore and wooden", "Gore and too intellectual of a policy wonk", "Gore and the lockbox", and now added would be the shite about Gore is a hypocrite on Global Climate Change cause he "flies" or WHATEVER.

Meanwhile, covering up the fucking chimp's "everything he touches turns to shite" record. Drunken sonava quaker oat's bitch.

The corporatemediawhores will get what's coming to them SOMEDAY but not today.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:33 PM
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12. Yes, they are salivating for it
Edited on Wed May-09-07 01:42 PM by RestoreGore
I'm glad he isn't giving them what they want. His work (and ours) is more important than their ratings.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:33 PM
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13. dupe n/t
Edited on Wed May-09-07 01:41 PM by RestoreGore
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:33 PM
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14. dupe n/t
Edited on Wed May-09-07 01:42 PM by RestoreGore
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:39 PM
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15. Sorry for the hiccup
That seems to happen to me here from time to time.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:54 AM
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4. this is TOO bad---please say it ain't so....
i am still hoping for a gore/clark ticket...

it ain't over til its over:headbang:


are you out there gore?....clark?
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:57 AM
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5. Don't count Gore out
He could declare as late as fall 2007 and would immediately garner all the money and support needed to win. I see two possible scenarios that would prompt Gore to re-enter the fray:

1. if HRC remains the front-runner going into the primaries (Al is the ultimate anti-Hillary) or 2. if there is no clear front-runner going into the primaries (Clinton/Obama/Edwards splitting the votes about equally among them).

In either scenario, Gore would win. RUN AL RUN!
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:31 PM
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7. I really don't think he could.
The point where most of the base was really interested in a white-knight solution has been passed. If Gore got into the race right now, he'd be another Edwards, pulling low teens in the polls, and enough money to survive, but with a huge uphill battle. I think the people with Clinton era nostalgia are already backing Hillary, and the people who want something new are lining up behind Obama and Edwards. Gore at this point would be an also ran. Besides which, he's said multiple times that he's not going to run. It's just the fact of people parsing his statements to try and keep the door open that this question is even being talked about.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:11 PM
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11. Your premise is based on faulty information.
"The point where most of the base was really interested in a white-knight solution has been passed."

Not true. Gore backers are hedging their bets with the others, because they don't have a clear favorite. There was an article about this very recently.

"If Gore got into the race right now, he'd be another Edwards, pulling low teens in the polls, and enough money to survive, but with a huge uphill battle."

Gore is polling ahead of or tied with Edwards already, and he isn't even running. And many of these donors hedging their bets are doing so just because Gore isn't in the race yet - if he ran that would be another story.

"Besides which, he's said multiple times that he's not going to run. It's just the fact of people parsing his statements to try and keep the door open that this question is even being talked about."

Also not true. He said he isn't planning a run, but he hasn't ruled it out either.

I think a lot more people parse his words to mean "I won't run in 2008", even though by this time in 2003 he made it explicitly clear that he wouldn't run in 2004. Not so this time.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:59 PM
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8. Gore is wise not to run yet - election season is WAY too early this year.
Edited on Wed May-09-07 01:02 PM by Alexander
By this time next year voters will be sick of everyone who took part in the first debate.

Anyone who enters the race later is making a wise decision this year.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:57 PM
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21. You got some serious faith...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:42 PM
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18. Tipper apparently has "zero enthusiasm" for an Al run
per a reporter from Wired magazine who spent a few days around the Gores after the Academy Awards. She stated this in an interview on NPR so I don't have a link. Private life has been very good to the Gores and she doesn't want to turn back.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:43 PM
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19. la, la, la, la
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:00 PM
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22. Ditto. Ditto. Ditto.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:49 PM
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20. Gore got kicked in the teeth with the electric bill and realized he wasn't ready for prime time. n/t
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