Hagel on Schieffer's show throws out possibility of run with Bloomberg as Indpendent

I wonder if they will run as the "Corporate Interest Party," or better the "Big Business Party." :D

I'm speaking of the Independent voters who would normally vote for the Democrat if there was no third party candidate.

JMHO.

since they all want to stay the course

and could really mess us up. I missed it, meant to watch and forgot to switch channels after Obama and McCain.

In what way would they be different? WE are REAL Republicans? The Republican Party is dead, vote here?
We really have a secret plan to end the war and WE won't be corrupt like those other Republicans and btw, one of us owns stock in those voting machines?

We don't have trouble fundraising because Billionaires R Us?

They would get disgusted Republicans to vote for them. Which would, what? Destroy us or the Republican Party?

Oh, and who would head the ticket, the short divorced Jewish billionaire (who would be an effective manager, no question), or the guy with the Senate voting record?

They would make Hillary look populist.

But, hey, guys, go for it.

which I think would garner some support from disaffected R's, if Hagel heads up the ticket. And they would draw off some Dems, who either aren't crazy about Hillary or have misgivings about Obama's relative inexperience. A lot of Dems do like Hagel. I think they would be a very viable ticket, compared to someone wacky like Perot.

21 Republican Senate seats up for grabs. The American people like a split between Congress and the White House. It might well encourage Republicans to toss the bums out in Congress while still casting a ballot for nominal Republicans in the White House.

And which way would the Congressional candidates endorse? Who will Rove be working for?

You are operating on the assumption that there are more Republicans than Democrats, and that lots of Democrats are idiots. Probably not a good way to look at things.

WHAT IS HAGEL'S SENATE RECORD?

but I can't answer your questions as to fundraising, etc. Hagel doesn't want to leave his party, I can tell you that--this is a hard decision for him. I think he thinks the party left him. Now where did I assume Dems were idiots? Of course ol' Chuck has a very conservative voting record, but it may seem less threatening if a very moderate Bloomberg were his VP ( I can't see Bloomberg heading the ticket, for several reasons). I think a lot of Dems who are loosely affiliated with the party (not those here, of course) may be attracted to Hagel because of his perceived integrity and principles, and also because he's quite good on foreign policy, which is a big issue this time around. Voting with your gut, because you like someone, as opposed to voting on Senate records or policy positions, doesn't make you an idiot. I am a "gut" voter myself, and my gut is that Obama is my guy.

Not to say he isn't quite popular though. He saw the handwriting on the wall and knew a Democrat would not win election so he switched parties. He never really sounds like a Republican although he claims to be one. He doesn't really sound much like a Democrat though either. I suspect a run as an Independent would garner a lot of attention until one thinks it through. There would be zero support from Congress, neither from Democrats or Republicans so it would be virtually impossible to accomplish anything..Unless of course there is a secret bargain among Republicans that since these two are Republicans at the moment they would remain Republican in deed even if they ran as Independents.. I think it would hurt Republicans more than Democrats if they indeed do run.....who knows though in this topsy-turvy world we live in..:shrug:

And it must disgust him the way this country is being run. But he thinks like a rich man. He can't help it. He will defend those ridiculous tax cuts until death.

I'm trying to imagine a contest between Hillary, the Republican turned Democrat, and Bloomberg, the Democrat turned Republican. Can you say confused voters? I know you can.

>>Not to say he isn't quite popular though. He saw the handwriting on the wall and knew a Democrat would not win election so he switched parties. >>>

... defeat in the NYC DEM party mayoral primary in 01. That's *his* version.

DEM primary voters tend to be more sophisticated than the general electorate and not as susceptible to the "Bloomberg is great every five minutes" TV megamillion ad buys.

He tried to make it possible to run without a party endorsement, so that millionaires wouldn't have to deal with people at all. He tried to bring the Olympics to NYC, WHICH WE DID NOT WANT. All the rich people thought it was a grand idea. The rest of us got sick to our stomachs at the thought.

I like him as mayor, I do. But I ain't handing him the presidency because he doesn't know what to do with the rest of his life.

and that it would be impossible to accomplish anything. I think it would be the exact opposite--both of these guys are independent-minded, and Hagel has a long history of cooperating with Democrats, despite his voting record. I think that their one big strength as a team would be that they wouldn't be an "ideologue" administration, but more of a managerial admin that gets things done thru compromise. Of course, I also believe Obama could do that best for the Dems, which is why I support him.

It's amazing what you can do when you own the (ballot) box.

Hagel is a conservative in everything except for endorsing Bush's insane foreign policy. A lot of moderates and centrists would be fooled into thinking he's a great guy. I doubt anyone who was asinine enough to vote for Bushratshit in 2004 would vote for Hagel in 2008. I've been afraid of Hagel playing Nader in 2008 for some time now. He would probably lose his Senate seat in 2008 anyway. Nebraska is state that seems to get more pigboy fascist every year. If I hadn't bought a house and started a family here I'd have been out long ago.

and trust him better than Nelson, who kisses Shrubya's ass way too much (and no, I don't think it's totally out of red-state political necessity, either). My guess is that Hagel will most likely not run for Senate re-election--he has said two terms would be enough, and I don't think he wants to fight a primary, especially not against a neocon-backed asshole like Bruning. I think he'll run for prez (he's been planning this awhile, he's the right age, it's a perfectly wide-open race) and if he fails--most likely--he'll end up with a cabinet or think-tank position and land on his feet just fine.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/04/19/ap3631187.html

One would wonder if some Democrats don't want the party to win in the 08 election.



Just a coincidence, I'm sure, that Al From was meeting with him recently as well.

Don't you?

Just saying. It would keep the Democrats from winning. It would put the GOP back in the WH...pretty much take that to the bamk.