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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:51 PM
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2008 is Lou Dobbs for the taking.
Anti Iraq war, Anti trade deal, Anti immigration, and generally pissed off is a winning hand with most of the public.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:56 PM
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1. Too bad Lou isn't running. So which candidate comes the closest.........
to a Lou Dobbs state of mind?
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:59 PM
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2. Ron Paul--except for the pissed off part.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:48 PM
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8. David Duke's not running this year...
... so I guess that leaves Lyndon LaRouche as the closest match.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:08 PM
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13. Wanting to stop the flow of illegal aliens into this country has nothing........
to do with racism. Whatever measures are necessary to secure our borders, including the installation of a wall or fence, should be a universally accepted and supported bipartisan position and issue.
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:05 PM
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25. Amen
It has to do with wage suppression by over 7 million illegal immigrant workers, and it has to do with respect of U.S. law.

The pro-Amnesty crowd uses the "race" card when they've run out of any logical arguments - which only takes about 30 seconds.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:40 PM
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24. Lou is married to a Mexican American!
Did you know that?
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:09 PM
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26. So was I - and I also oppose illegal immigration
Illegal immigration suppresses wages. It doesn't matter what their ethnic or racial origin. 7 million illegal immigrants of European descent would create just as big a problem as 7 million illegal Hispanic immigrants. It's the number, not the origin.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:06 PM
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12. Do we (the Democrats) have a perfect candidate who is not running?
So which of our candidates, the ones actually running at this time, come the closest to, to what? To each of our individual definitions of Democratic perfectionism regardless of whether that candidate could be elected? Or do we compromise on a candidate with whom we mostly agree? The truth is that all candidates have warts even if they are not apparent to each of us. There is no perfect candidate, but there is a best candidate for each of us, even one who has the actual ability to be elected (getting elected ultimately is the point).
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:11 PM
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14. Not perfect but very electable....Al Gore.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:49 PM
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17. Yes, very electable. Congratulations for realizing there is no perfect candidate for all of us. n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:19 PM
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16. Yes, we have a perfect candidate who is not running. WES CLARK!
We NEED Wes Clark! We NEED someone who is strong of defense to protect us from all those terrorists the Rethugs say are coming to get us.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:54 PM
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20. Ahh, but he can't hit a home run unless he comes to bat.
A twist on the Rumsfeld quote, we will have to go into the general election with the candidate we have and not the candidate we wish we had, be it Clark or somebody else.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:36 PM
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23. Fortunately for the major political Parties he isn't running as an Independent
I sense a very heavy air of frustration in this country with both parties and politicians in general, pandering to special interests instead of being concerned with the greater good of the country. Dobbs' message transcends that even though few, if none of us agree with everything he says.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:04 PM
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3. He is the perfect R candidate.
MKJ
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:15 PM
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15. Lou bashes away at the rethugs many times ever night on his show.......
that sure isn't a perfect R candidate.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 01:02 AM
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22. The way the R's are attacking each other, I'd say he's a perfect fit.
MKJ
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:21 PM
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4. Lou Dobbs is kind of an arrogant ass.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:40 PM
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5. There's no "kind of" about it. He is an arrogant ass.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/20/dobbs-vs-flanders/

"LAURA FLANDERS, AIR AMERICA: I wanted to come back for a minute to the L.A. story, the last two stories. I think if Dr. King were alive today, he would be talking about what happened on L.A. on May 1st. When you talk about abuse, 240 rounds of rubber bullets and tear gas.

We've gone from legal punishment of illegal aliens to physical punishment, and it's not helped by language like yours, Lou, talking about these as being illegal aliens…

DOBBS: Laura, Laura, Laura, that's ridiculous.

FLANDERS: They're not aliens, they're people. And the vast majority of people at these marches are utterly legal. They're not aliens, Lou. They're people, and you're dehumanizing them with that language.

=================================

It gets worse, much worse. Bullying and berating Ms. Flanders off the air. Unreal.

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-bullying-male.html

"But apparently, it all escalated when the cameras went off. Recall what Mark Potok told me yesterday:

The day after he went after me, which was last Monday, I saw him with this woman from Air America. I only saw a few minutes of it, but it was unbelievable. He was simply screaming at her. It looked like Rivera vs. O'Reilly on immigration. He was simply shouting her down. And this was over an extremely minor point -- she was trying to make the point that calling people 'illegal aliens' is a pejorative, and comes off that way, which I think is pretty undeniable. And Dobbs was just screaming at her.

Laura told me later, he followed her, first, into the dressing room, and then almost into the ladies' room, yelling at her! It was unbelievable.

Potok's characterization of the on-air confrontation with Flanders wasn't quite accurate; it's clear from the tape that although he's clearly trying to intimidate her, he doesn't scream at any time. Certainly, it's far from the O'Reilly-Rivera exchange, in which it appeared that O'Reilly was about to gouge Rivera's eyes out.

But as to the off-camera bullying -- with Dobbs following Flanders into the Green Room and then to the door of the ladies' room -- I e-mailed Flanders herself to confirm the story, and she answered: "Yeah, it's all true."


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:43 PM
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7. Wow--yes, an UNQUALIFIED arrogant ass!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:41 PM
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6. Actually he is the embodiment of arrogant assism
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:51 PM
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9. Lou Dobbs is not only an arrogant ass but a lying scum that will
play to fear and ignorance. Kinda' like some others we know and don't love.

He talked about illegal aliens collecting social security after only three months in the US for almost a year. It's a lie. Can't happen. Not in the law. Check the SS website.

Still for a year he repeated this daily.

The only one Lou Dobbs reminds me of is, well, Lou Dobbs.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 10:56 PM
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11. Lou figured out what got ratings and thats about it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 10:47 PM
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10. Lou-ser is a mean SOB at heart
<Current and former CNN employees describe Dobbs as a volatile, sometimes ruthless figure. “He rules by fear,” a current CNN employee, who would not be named, said. “He’s definitely a screamer,” said another. “He can be stubborn, vicious, cutting, and his words are very forceful.”

Some employees got it worse than others. “Dobbs had once demanded that a very short producer stand on a chair so he could yell at him, and when the young man refused, Dobbs crouched down to deliver the scolding,” wrote Howard Kurtz of The Washington Post in The Fortune Tellers, his 2001 book about business media. Dobbs’s former employees say that his actions were designed to build loyalty. “He was not indiscriminately mean-spirited, but it was more of a test,” said a former “Moneyline” employee. “Those that failed the test left, and those that passed the test stuck around.”>

http://www.american.com/archive/2006/november/lou-dobbs
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:51 PM
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18. Lou is a kind of paleo-con populist who probably resonates with a lot of disappointed Publicans
DUers already know he resonates with us on the "Outsourcing of America" and destruction of the middle class issues.

He gets way too hysterical over illegal immigration for most Democrats, but he's right that the lack of intelligent regulation is a problem.

I find him an interesting character, but I change the channel when he starts foaming at the mouth over undocumented workers.

He's not running for office. He has plenty of influence where he is.

Hekate

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:51 PM
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19. Lou Dobbs is a self promoting, sanctimonious ass hole who is
in it for the money and the glory...

So I guess that would qualify him as a potential presidential candidate...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 12:12 AM
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21. Buchanan and Perot have run before and they ddin't do so well
people like this usually don't win. but are mre about influencing the debate .
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