Biden says Obama, Clinton risked putting troops in danger, with their "NO" votes on funding

Biden says Obama, Clinton risked putting troops in danger

Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, a Democratic candidate for president, criticized Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama today for voting against funds for the Iraq war. Their "no" votes "absolutely, positively, unquestionably" could have put U.S. troops at additional risk, he said on ABC's This Week.

Biden also said that he'd be a better president than Clinton "by a long shot" because "I've been doing this for 34 years of my life ... I have a track record ... And no one ever has to wonder about whether I mean what I say -- not that they do with her."

If Clinton's side had prevailed in the Iraq vote, Biden said, the money would have been delayed a week to six weeks. During that time, he said, 300 to 1,000 mine-resistant vehicles could have been built to protect soldiers against explosive devices that are causing 70% of deaths and injuries.

"I could not even countenance the idea of not voting to get them built immediately knowing there was no prospect -- emphasize, none, zero" that Congress could override a veto by President Bush, he said.

"I think it was a mistake. I know it was," Biden said of his rivals' "no" votes.

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http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/06/biden_says_obam.html

it's a good thing Biden's vote kept the troops out of danger. :eyes:

it says, Bidens poll numbers are in the single digits. So that means he is either a 3 with the potential of 9 because of his speaking out. Or he's a 9 and could be a 3 by Wednesday...I'm going to ck the polls on him this week.

And are those vehicles getting deployed to all troops in danger? Nope. The Army doesn't want them, just the Marines.

What makes me bring this up? My brother getting a concussion when his Hummer was hit by an IED a few months back. They won't be getting these vehicles because the Army thinks the Hummer is just fine.

But I digress, back to my original statement, I don't believe you can build a vehicle like that in such a short time frame in such volumes.

their OIL?

The best way to save our troops lives is to get them out of Iraq. I also wonder why congress didn't just cut the funding in half?

continuing to force them into harms way become being tough and supporting the troops?

Fuck that noise.

"Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is in single-digits in polls of the presidential race."


http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/06/biden_says_obam.html

I don't think Obama or Clinton lead at all with their votes,but they were the right votes regardless,and that's what matters to me.

The only time Biden speaks clearly is when he's plagerizing someone else's speech.

"Their "no" votes "absolutely, positively, unquestionably" could have put U.S. troops at additional risk, he said on ABC's This Week." (That's definitive).

"During that time, he said, 300 to 1,000 mine-resistant vehicles could have been built to protect soldiers against explosive devices that are causing 70% of deaths and injuries." (Okay, I won't quibble on the numbers, since I don't know, but what I do know is that they won't be built. The reason Dems voted against the funding in the first place is because the funding is not being used to do what it "could" be used for.)

Biden is a follower, not a leader. At times he is able to master an understanding of an issue, which makes him useful as an advisor or beauracrat. But he does not know how to take initiative, to see beyond the last argument he's been fed, or to find a solution outside of what's been tried before. Luckily, he's got an only slightly better chance than Gravel, Kucinich, or Paul to win anything.

I'm glad to see him in single digits. What an ass hole.

Of course, with the surge being the failure that it is, how will Biden be able to justify additional "Yes" votes on funding bills?

Why do people always try to put words in his mouth???

What he said was that he was not going to answer for Hillary or Obama, but
the funding for the MRAPs was in that bill and that is why he voted for it.

Biden has been fighting for these vehicles non-stop. He even has Gates innvestigating why they haven't gotten the
vehicles sooner. He is right. If this bill was held up longer, then getting the MRAPs to the soldiers would have been held up.
Biden also has thank you notes from the troops for how hard he has fought to get them these vehicles.

Unfortunately the transcript is not up yet.

He is not going to answer for Hillary and Obama. and he has said that many, many times.

So Please stop twisting his words around.

Thank you!

The video is available at http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3287504

Here's the key exchange, at around 3:30 of the interview --

Steph: ...You believe a "NO Vote" puts the troops at additional risk.
JB: ...Absolutely, positively, unquestionably... I wasn't prepared to play chicken with the lives of American troops...

IED Strike: The deadly devices cause most U.S. casualties
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19263105/site/newsweek/?from=rss

Gayl says the corps could have ramped up MRAP production had it tried—and says that's exactly what it's doing now. Marine Commandant James Conway recently called sending MRAPs into theater—some 7,700 are on rush order—his "highest moral imperative." MRAPS "could reduce the casualties in vehicles due to IED attack by as much as 80 percent," Conway told outgoing Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace in a letter in March. Sen. Joseph Biden, a 2008 presidential candidate, has taken up Gayl's cause, calling for an investigation of "how this fell through." The 2005 request, Biden says, "got lost somewhere in the bowels of the Pentagon. We haven't gotten an explanation back yet of how that happened."

There are articles just like this one all over the web, about Biden's fight for MRAPs to protect our troops from what IEDs are doing to them. The troops are thanking Biden for his fight.

You decide!

that picture is just heartbreaking..will the new vehicles really be strong enough to protect the troops, even with the additional armour, from an IED strike?

Hopefully it won't take so long to get it to the troops.