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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:09 PM
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8 different Obama scandals in one week. Coincidence?
This week there has not been a break from Obama Bash 07. With out encouraging flaming... I want to know who here thinks Clinton is behind this??? What can Obama do to counter it? Be nice:D
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:10 PM
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1. Could you list the 8 please ...
inquiring minds want to know.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:17 PM
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5. Have you been living under a rock this week?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:26 PM
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7. Why yes. Yes I have.
Please list the 8. I thank you.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:07 PM
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25. The list.
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 03:41 PM by mckeown1128
I have left out some links because my computer keeps kicking me off before I finish writing them. But I have links for the obscure ones.

Obama memo about Clinton
Obama's land deal
Obama's favorers (in letter form) to corrupt Resko
Obamagirl video (while not meant to be negative it has been spun to reinforce the Empty Suit Rock star persona)
Obama met with Powell for advice
Obama missed no confidence vote that wouldn't have passed regardless

Obama attacks Bill Clinton
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jun/15/obama_campaign_circulating_negative_story_about_bill_clinton

Obama destroys the black civil rights movement
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=251&Itemid=34

and a bonus:
Obama scandal with in a memogate scandal
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obamaindiajun16,1,2562045.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true


On Edit: None of these scandals stand up after you look closely at them. Some are total BS.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:31 PM
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27. Thanks ...
:hi:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:32 PM
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8. I haven't been living under a rock this week and can only think of
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 01:45 PM by Benhurst
renewed reports on the land deal associated with Obama's house which I did not find very damaging. What "scandals" are you talking about?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:57 PM
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16. I need a list too, I will quietly take it back to my rock.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:16 PM
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19. I've been here and can't come up with 8 scandals. I'd like a list, too. NT
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:37 PM
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22. I was living ON a rock the past week. List please?
I was in the Sawtooth National Forest in Idaho fishing for trout and when I wasn't I was in Mountain Home, Idaho hugging my baby grand daughter and eating at great restaurants.

So what did I miss?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:44 PM
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29. Quit bragging.
:spank:

:D
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:15 PM
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2. Why should it be Clinton?
She's way ahead of him.

But making the association with absolutely NO EVIDENCE...I'd call that a Clinton bash, not an Obama one.

Obama's supporters will destroy him.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:32 PM
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9. No way could it be Clinton
The electoral attention span cannot absorb more than 1 scandal/day. And news that comes out on the weekend is pretty much wasted. Hillary is way too professional to be wasting scandals that way. Eight in one week? That's absurd!
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:33 PM
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10. It is Clinton - A couple of the News agencies even mention the video
with the girl over the weekend. They thought it was the Clinton group who paid the girl. Everyone knows how her group operates.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:42 PM
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28. You got a link?
Because the whole youtube video attack was Obama's problem earlier in the campaign.

Which besides the point, I thought that video was fun and hardly an attack unless you consider someone with rock star status as an inferior candidate.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:29 PM
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31. I didn't say that I thought all the scandals were from Clinton..
I just think the Clinton supporters have been on the attack unreasonably
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:34 PM
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11. Hell YES!
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:35 PM
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13. Roger Morris accused them of sabotaging Hart in '87-88.
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 01:40 PM by Hart2008
See, Partners in Power: The Clinton's and Their America pages 433-434.

(Roger Morris was a NSC advisor to LBJ and is very critical of the present Bush Administration.
Condoleezza Rice at the Center of the Plame Scandal: The Source Beyond Rove:
http://www.counterpunch.org/morris07272005.html
So let's not call him part of some vast right-wing conspiracy.)

I don't know of anyone from that campaign who disagrees with Morris on this point.

The fact that Bill Clinton is so friendly with GHW Bush hasn't changed anyone's mind either.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:16 PM
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4. Obama Has A Lot of Targets Painted On Him
The hardcore racists don't like him.
The people down on Chicago or Illinois or the Midwest don't like him.
The non-Democrats don't like him--in fact, they may be terrified of him.
The people who hate Senators don't like him.
The other Democratic candidates (all of them) find him a credible threat.
And there are those who think he's too green for the job, and would prefer someone with some kind of executive training.

To limit his enemies list to just one is to be a little bit biased, don't you think?
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:20 PM
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6. Most likely it is a right wing thing. They are the only ones low enough to do such things.
The lies about Kerry, the lies about Gore now lies about Obama, do you see a pattern here?
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:34 PM
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12. Incorrect it has Hillary's name all over it.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:11 PM
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26. You saw Hillary's name on it or are you making a WAG?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:46 PM
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30. LOL. Hillary doesn't get caught with finger prints...that would be the Obama campaign.
Th latest was the memos but before that there was the 1984 video of Clinton.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:40 PM
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14. Not a coincidence at all.
Anyone thinking so is naive to the point of insanity.Personally,I think Hillary and Obama are pretty identical,so watching them and their supporters go at it,trying to show how different and better they are,all the while acting exactly like a mirror image of those they oppose,is damned amusing.

Makes me realize that neither of them is probably worth voting for.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:48 PM
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15. Like one camp saying Obama is sunk because he talked with Powell, but not seeing
anything untoward with the Clintons years of closeness with the Bushes who gave Powell his orders.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:11 PM
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17. Yeah,a lot like that.
:)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:34 PM
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21. If you say it enough it must be true, If you say it enough it must be true.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:38 PM
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24. Well then I guess Clinton's baggage needs to start coming out if they want to play dirty pool
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:46 PM
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32. And what "baggage" would that be?
:shrug:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:15 PM
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18. I wouldn't be so quick to say
While some of it is obviously Clinton, specifically the memos, that was a reaction. But most of this is just coming too early in the game for it to be Clinton. Her people know how to pace these things. You hold back until November, December and January and let it rip, if need be, but not blow it out there before you need to. Somebody's doing it, but it may not be Clinton. IMO.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:17 PM
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20. as far as i can tell
most of the stuff i read here is either not posting the full story,not understanding politics ,or belief that thier canidate walks on water..

but it`s election time! let the fun begin!
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:37 PM
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23. So if we have to blame Hillary for the Clinton bashing then
with all the swiftboating of Hillary should we blame Obama. The books the movies and all the rest.

Why don't you people get real..the people doing the bashing are the republicans under the direction of rove...................you are doing just what the republicans want you to do....throw the democrats in disarray.

In the first place,,Hillary does not have to bash Obama..she is in the lead. And in the second Obama does not have to bash Hillary he is not far behind. If either one was proven to be bashing each other and don't worry if they were it would be proven, then it would drop them and they are too intelligent to do that.

Why don't you all concentrate on the ones responsible rove's dirty trick gang.
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