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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 07:08 AM
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Quote of the day -- this one's a keeper
Andrew Sullivan, in his review of Glenn Greenwald's new book, A Tragic Legacy: How a Good vs. Evil Mentality Destroyed the Bush Presidency:

There is still a chance to repair the damage - but given how much we have lost since 9/11, the constitutional consequences of another major attack are likely to be terminal to the American experiment in liberty. If a Giuliani or a Cheney is in power on such a day, we can kiss goodbye to the constitution. If I sound overly alarmed by what has happened to American liberty, it's because I honestly didn't expect to see habeas corpus, the most basic freedom we have, so casually thrown away and torture so casually enshrined in the American system. I never believed an American president would not only claim but exercise the power to detain any person in America and jail and torture them with impunity - indefinitely. But these are the facts; and my own book was an attempt to account for them within the conservative philosophical tradition. Glenn Greenwald comes from a very different place, but we have sadly come to the same conclusion.

America has exchanged some if its basic freedoms for the patina of phony security - and so easily. The Republican party, to its historic shame, has been the main vehicle for the replacement of doubt, empiricism and calm judgment with certainty, fundamentalism and raw force. We have terrible enemies abroad, seeking to destroy our way of life. But this truth should never blind us to the danger within as well. Al Qaeda can only give us death. It is up to us to surrender the liberty they despise. In so many ways, we already have.


Say what you will about Sullivan and his gradual recovery from being a winger apologist, this is the message that all Americans need to hear.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 07:33 AM
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1. Even tho I don't agree with him alot, I enjoy reading him and
I find he is preceptive about alot things. He is not a hate monger and has some good thoughts.
He is very open minded and I can respect him
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 08:34 AM
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2. Bushco is a far, far, far greater threat ...
than Al Qaeda.

There is still a chance to repair the damage - but given how much we have lost since 9/11, the constitutional consequences of another major attack are likely to be terminal to the American experiment in liberty.


I have little reason left to doubt that Bushco came to power to terminate the American experiment.
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