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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:24 AM
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you say you want a revolution?
Edited on Sat Jun-23-07 09:30 AM by welshTerrier2
in reading the Declaration of Independence, it is startling to see the similarities of some of the grievances against the first King George and America's latest iteration. While the times and circumstances are much different, the underlying themes of disrespect for the people (be they domestic or foreign), disrespect for the rule of law and excessive use of the military are, nevertheless, very much the same. See how many of the following reasons for declaring independence you think apply, in some way, to today's America.

we may not need a violent revolution but we clearly need to reawaken, in every American, the principles on which this country was founded. impeachment and removal from office of all traitors would be an excellent place to begin. such actions should never be "taken off the table."

from the introduction:

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


here are a few selections from the reasons cited by the Colonists for declaring independence:

The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. (think US Attorneys scandal)

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States (think Abu Ghraib)

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences (think "extraordinary rendition")

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. (think "signing statements")

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. (think Iraq and Blackwater)

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. (think republicans yielding the power of Congress to bush's imperial administration).

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.






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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:28 AM
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1. Of course. We're right back where we started. A struggle against
'royalty'. Or more accurately, a class of people who see themselves that way.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 11:00 AM
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2. K&R nt
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 11:15 AM
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3. THE MEDIA BROUGHT US GWBUSH
sad sad state of affairs
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 01:41 PM
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4. It is our duty. Peaceful or not - their choice. knr n/t
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 02:11 PM
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5. Recommended and

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 02:14 PM
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6. I'm sure our government is thinking about it
and are getting prepared that's why they haven't discontinued the NSA spying and the building of those detension centers.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 02:27 PM
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7. haunting words
welcome to DU, Middle finga!!

those are some haunting words you put down there. the risks we face are indeed very high.
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 02:44 PM
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8. Thanks DU is cool place to hangout
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