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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 04:58 PM
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Richardson to outraise Edwards in 2nd Qtr?
Would shake things up if true

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Could there be a reshuffling of tiers in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination? Judging by an almost offhanded comment in a front page article in today's issue of The Washington Post by Michael D. Shear and Anne E. Kornblut, it seems possible. Take a look.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who is barely registering in most polls, has told other Democrats that he expects to raise more money than Edwards this quarter.


To parse the reporting of Shear and Kornblut just a bit before I get into the substance of this, it would be incorrect to assert that Richardson "is barely registering in most polls." In fact, while it is true that Richardson's standing in most national polls is rather low (certainly below 5 percent), in polling from Iowa and New Hampshire, which are significantly more important than national polling, Richardson is averaging 10.8 percent and 9.1 percent respectively, which is hardly "barely registering."

Yet moving on to the substance of this claim by Richardson -- that he will raise more money this quarter than Edwards -- there are a number of interesting implications here. First, this is an interesting way of playing the expectations game by Richardson if in fact he does not fully expect to outraise Edwards, because if he fails to meet this mark after setting it for himself he would seem to solidify his position in a separate and lower tier than Edwards. If this is a more traditional expectations game -- i.e. a claim passed to the press not by the Richardson camp but rather by the Edwards camp to lay the groundwork for calling their Q2 fundraising a success just by being greater than that of Richardson, even if it is only about a third of either Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama -- this would seem to bring Edwards closer to Richardson's tier than that of Clinton and Obama (because it would be his campaign making the comparison).


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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:01 PM
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1. That is interesting, and I hope it's true. Richardson got off to a rocky start. NT
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:02 PM
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2. His debate performance has been miserable...
And his campaign has made some mistakes...

And still, he is threatening to move into double digits in both Iowa and New Hampshire

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:03 PM
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3. I'd like to see him move forward. NT
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:04 PM
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4. Yeah me too...
He is my second choice right now...

Though I have been very impressed by Biden's performance so far!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:07 PM
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Well, this won't endear me to some at DU, but I like Biden, too. Always have.
:evilgrin:
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:29 PM
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22. Me too.
I wonder how his fundraising is going?

He should have a much better qtr than last. He has picked up some huge endorsements.
But I'm sure it's not in the rock star category.
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Byronic Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:01 AM
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28. It's okay NYCGirl
We won't tell anyone. Your guilty secret is safe with us.

;)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:42 PM
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26. but he has been running ads in early states and doing more campaigning there
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:54 PM
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27. Yes.. but...

.. remember, Kerry was also making some pretty questionable moves on the campaign trail early on too.

I mean, c'mon --- Democrats were embarrassed out of their minds when he drove his motorcycle onto the set of Leno.



And as far as polls go.. he was a bottom-feeder for a LONG arse time!! Hell.. no one here even ever mentioned his name until after Iowa.

Well.. it was mentioned. But not very damned often.

Ed Schultz (radio host and HRC fanatic) said the other day that he thinks Richardson is just one of those people who is impeccable at what he does -- but that he just doesn't do well in a debate setting.

You know how these things turn out Elmer...

....usually how you least expect it.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:05 PM
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5. I like Richardson
I would like to see him make some progress with his campaign.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:22 PM
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7. I don't like Richardson.
I don't want to see him make progress with his campaign. He's a free traitor.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 10:17 AM
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31. Has Edwards said he's sorry?
For all those jobs lost to China? Speaking of "free traitors."
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 02:37 PM
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32. Why would you care? You obviously support free trade in its current form. (nt)
Edited on Sun Jun-24-07 02:37 PM by w4rma
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 02:58 PM
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 08:00 PM
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11. I predicted he would do well long time back
I like him too.
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Like It Is Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 09:45 PM
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35. HE"S NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME.
His debate performances have been miserable!
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:07 PM
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6. If true, so f'ing what?
Edwards will raise enough money to be very competitive.

I'm not worried.

Governor Richardson will NOT be the next president so why is this stunning news?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 05:27 PM
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8. Because doesn't Richardson deserve a chance?
Why the nastiness?

He's been so far behind to see his fund raising overtake 3rd place Edwards is a big deal to Richardson supporters.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:58 AM
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37. Yes, he deserves a chance
and many here were rooting for him

But if he was doing so poorly on national forums, how will he fare in a debate with the Republican?

Yes, I am willing to give him a chance for the next Democratic debate, or for the next round of TV talk but if he cannot polish his presentation, if he cannot anticipate the traps and be ready for them then, unfortunately, he is finished.

Perhaps all the funds he is raising will help him hire good aids to help him prepare.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 07:14 PM
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10. Your man is FADING -
Fading!

There'll be nothing left of him but his smile. A fine, toothy one of course.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 08:23 PM
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13. So why is he going up in the polls and closing the gap to 2nd place? nt
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Like It Is Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 09:49 PM
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36. MUST BE THE SPANISH VOTE.
Maybe the Illegals are voting.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:16 PM
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14. mature analysis. congratulations. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:18 PM
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16. That's rude and insulting of you.
Over the line.

After that there is not much you can say that would be redeeming.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:32 PM
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23. Personally I think he has a better chance than Edwards.
He has foreign relations experience and knows how to get things done.
That is what people are going to be looking for.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 07:12 PM
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9. Folks it basically goes like this...
JE has probably tapped all his usual donors with a mad rush to get into third place...

Richardson wasn't really raising any money during the first quarter so he tapped his fund raising base for the max...

We shall see if he can branch out to wider base of donors for the third quarter...

But if HRC and BO put double figure distance between themselves and JE, it could be over for him...
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:18 PM
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15. Edwards will be the nominee, regardless of this quarter's fundraising.
as an edwards supporter, I'm not worried. If he can stay in the race, and he CAN, then he's going to be the nominee.

and he'll be the president.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:22 PM
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20. It was a good mail from Trippi today. About what matters.
I hate and despise that I will have no choice at all. It just does not matter. Hillary has Bill, people will vote by name.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:20 PM
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18. So only money counts? Gotcha.
Hillary Hillary Hillary Hillary...Bill Bill Bill Bill
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:21 PM
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19. What is the track record of the candidate who raises the most money historically?
I know in 2004 Dean lost, in 2000 the big money candidates both won, in 1996 Gramm lost, what about prior to that, aside from Connoly in 1980?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:22 PM
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21. Hillary has Bill.
.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:41 PM
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25. That's not what I said at all...
I was explaining how politicians collect money...

This isn't about us...

It's about the people with the bucks deciding which one has enough financial support to carry them to the White House..
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:50 AM
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29. Edwards will raise enough.
Why all the love for big money all of a sudden?

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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 09:46 AM
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30. If Richardson does well 2Q. Bet it's because of Hispanics.
I've been following Richardson and he is making big inroads with Hispanic supporters even Republican Hispanics. One of Bush's biggest former fund raisers from Texas is now supporting him. The reason is immigration. The Hispanic Community doesn't like the anti-immigrant turn taken by Republicans and see Richardson as having the best shot of getting a realistic but humane reform bill through congress.
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ludwigb Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 08:22 PM
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12. Richardson is Better on Iraq
then the 3 leading candidates. Even though no one notices it. So good for him.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:19 PM
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17. how is he better than Edwards today? nt
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:34 PM
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24. It doesn't really matter, Edwards will reach his goal of $40 million by the Primaries.
He also has $25m tied up in that Hedge Fund if he ever needs it. Edwards believes the $40mil can get him victories in Iowa and maybe one of the early Primaries and ride that momentum for a win.

Personally, I don't see Richardson with any chance. He is HORRIBLE in the debates and in public interviews (Meet the Press). Good for him fundraising, but no way will he come close to Edwards in the polls.

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 03:08 PM
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34. I'm sure those cute "job interview" ads helped.
It seemed to be a jab at the top tier candidates, all of whom have far less experience than Richardson.
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