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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 08:53 PM
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Christian conservative gives Obama high marks on faith speech
<The headlines from Barack Obama’s faith speech this weekend centered on how he ripped leaders of the religious right. We’ll get to that in a moment. But this speech was a lot more than just that.

Let’s first start with this. Besides Obama, how many times have you seen a presidential candidate get up in front of a large crowd and talk in depth about his salvation? I’ll give you the answer: Zero. For Obama to stand up and talk about how Jesus changed his life, my friends that takes guts. You may disagree with everything he’s about, you may disagree with his policy goals but as Christians, shouldn’t we like it when someone talks about Christ being the missing ingredient in his life?...>

<Barack Obama wants to bring the country together as best he can on this issue of faith and politics. His heart is in the right place. To “call out” leaders of the Christian Right like that seemed a little too broad for my taste. (watch those comments here )He blanketed a lot of people with one broad brush. If you really look closely at those leaders of the Christian Right, it doesn’t seem fair to pigeonhole all of them in the same category and to say all they care about are abortion, gay marriage, school prayer and intelligent design. These leaders have spoken out and taken action on issues like the genocide in Darfur, poverty in America, torture techniques, helping people after devastating natural disasters, etc. Do they focus on abortion and gay marriage more than progressives? Yes but is that such a crime to believe that God would be against it?

To me though, the criticism of the religious right was a small part of the speech. I saw it more as an uplifting speech that can bring people of faith together...>

<Here’s what it comes down to. Obama’s view of his faith calls for social justice. Moral issues like immigration, minimum wage, healthcare, etc are all part of that equation. (watch more on that here) Social conservatives see the pressing moral issues as abortion, gay marriage, etc. So how can you bring both sides together? Maybe you can’t. But if religious conservatives are willing to engage in some of these other “moral issues” that Obama talks about, then Obama and the progressives might also need to be willing to engage on the abortion and gay marriage issue. For example, nobody expects Obama to all of a sudden become pro-life, but will he be able to move towards the middle on issues like parental notification or a congressional bill that warns would be mothers that their fetus will feel pain if aborted after 20 weeks?>

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/183357.aspx

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 10:24 PM
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1. It takes no guts at all
What would take guts would be for a presidential candidate to proclaim his lack of belief. And that's a sad commentary on the state of America -- along with the fact that such a proclamation would destroy his candidacy.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 10:46 PM
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2. Of course it took guts to call out the evangelicals like that
but coming out and saying you don't believe would take even more guts.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 10:56 PM
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5. except he would be lying to say that. Like the leaders of civil rights,
religion plays a role in his life. I don't know if anyone noticed but, faith plays a big role in the African American community. And that is where the great protests came from.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 11:18 AM
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10. I know
Im just saying it would take even more guts for an atheist to call out the evangelicals IMO.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 10:55 PM
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4. Um...wouldn't a candidate first have to lack belief in order to even proclaim such?
Edited on Sun Jun-24-07 10:57 PM by jefferson_dem
:shrug:
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 10:54 PM
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3. the last is telling. Looking for a way to engage with progressives to find common ground.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:03 PM
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6. BO is ahead of the curve on this issue. Others should follow his lead nt
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:23 PM
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8. Wow ~ Mario.. YOU ROCK !!

You get the "Bestest DU'er of the Day" award for complementing a candidate who isn't even your top pick!

~~~~~~~

Do you know how RARE that is on here this time of the year?

If we all did that a little bit more, this place would be...

-- a lot less of this:

-- and a whole lot more of this:






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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:57 PM
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9. Any of our candidates would be a massive upgrade over * !
Edited on Sun Jun-24-07 11:58 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
I criticize other candidates, as do others, but all of our candidates bring strengths to the table that should be acknowledged imo.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:05 PM
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7. kudos to Obama for excavating votes
from formerly unattainable territory
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