CNN Poll: Hillary 43, Obama 25, Edwards 17...Bloomberg a Perot like effect...

Wait until he's in the race spending a half billion dollars on paid TV advertising. The "Perot-like" effect is with NO money spent, that's actually pretty impressive. It could certainly grow to become something that only Perot wished in his wildest dreams. I don't think that's good for the Democrats - or the Republicans. This is a different kind of year - anything can happen.

People don't know anything more about him than he is a billionaire mayor of New York...

Like Obama who's negatives are rising, I suspect Bloomberg's would too...

I guess that's what I mean by anything could happen. One thing's for sure - this is going to one hell of a ride in '08.

and Bill Bill Bill.

and 28 yesrs of Bushes and Clintons.

I never saw anyone post as many polls as you do. It is angering.

What about me?

1. Get used to it

2. Use the handy dandy ignore feature so kindly provided to everyone by the moderators...

It is the inevitable nature.

Just sounds like people are disappointed that their candidate is not ahead in the polls right now...

Got it? I am so sick of it all right now. These polls are so sickening so far ahead, and no really serious issues are being addressed.

We support Edwards, but we are realists. Hillary Hillary Hlllary because she's got Billary.

Why the angst?

You see GD : Politics is for...political news strangely enough...plenty of other forums for you to visit...

Or...that ignore button is only a few clicks away...

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people post lots of threads about one particular politician? Odd.

Just kidding of course. What the interest is in her I haven't a clue. She can't give a straight answer on anything. Of course, my opinion will get me accused of being a Hillary hater, just watch!

I reserve the right to make that judgement at a later date. :hi:

If anything it seems like she is consolidating here lead even more securely...

This could be important cause Californians can vote early, and those numbers might be known before the Iowa caucus...could give her an initial bump

If you think Iowa caucus participants are going to look at some polls in California that say that Senator Clinton is leading and make their vote according to that "information", you don't know Iowans.

I seem to remember nearly all the polls at around January 10, 2004 predicting an overwhelming victory for Howard Dean. Yeah, Iowans sure looked at those polls when making their decision. I was there....I saw it firsthand.

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No...obviously not...

These will not be opinion polls...but tracking polls of actual votes...

As with any campaign, what happens in one state affects the next....

...and you'd be wrong on that.

Either way, polls seven months away from the actual voting starts is fairly pointless...fun for political junkies like you or me...but pointless.

Tracking polls of actual California votes would be released within days of the Iowa caucus...

...Iowans who participate in the caucus will give two craps what Californians think... no matter who is in the lead. Trust me.

That voting in one state affects voting in the next?

I think we can agree that what happens in Iowa will certainly have an impact on New Hampshire which will have a buzz in Nevada and South Carolina leading up to February 5.

I don't think polls from California will affect much on Iowa caucus participants...

In '92 GHW Bush was very unpopular.

The polls showed that people preferred to vote for an unnamed Dem over Bush, yet when it became apparent the Bill Clinton would get the nomination, people demanded a third choice. Perot led in the polls when he withdrew in the summer of '92, and Bill Clinton was the third of three candidates. By election day, the CNN/Gallup exit poll showed that more voters preferred Perot over Clinton, but didn't vote for him because, based on pre-election published polling, they didn't believed he would win. William Schneider, CNN political analyst, on the a September 21, 1996 broadcast of "Inside Politics," aired this exit poll result:

In 1992 the actual vote was:
Clinton 43%, Bush 38%, Perot 19%

CNN 1992 Exit Poll:
"Would you have voted for Perot if he had a chance to win?"
Yes 36% No 64%

CNN 1992 Exit Poll
The vote for Perot if voters believed he could win
Perot 36 percent
Clinton 34 percent
Bush 30 percent

Now with Junior Bush at record low approval ratings, the same trend is reoccurring. Dems should be poised to win in a landslide election, capturing the Presidency and big margins in both houses of Congress. Instead, when confronted with another Clinton in the White House, the polls show people wanting a third choice.

Knowing this, why do we want to nominate another Clinton?

The Repubs are smart enough not to nominate Jeb Bush this election. Shouldn't Dem's make a smart choice as well?

:shrug:

We will see what his plans are when they finish work on their project at the end of July...
;)

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