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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 10:55 AM
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Brownback Writes of Clinton Hatred, The Stunning Apology to Hillary
Sam Brownback says he harbored a "hatred" of Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton until he experienced a religious awakening in the mid-1990s.

Brownback, a Republican presidential hopeful, details in a new book how the change in outlook led him to make a stunning apology to Hillary Clinton a few years later during a Senate prayer breakfast.

"I was considering what I should say when I confronted all the anger that I held for the Clintons," the Kansas senator writes in the book, "From Power to Purpose: A Remarkable Journey of Faith and Compassion."

"I thought, I hate them for what they are doing to the country and I feel justified in hating them for it," he writes.

But Brownback says he realized there is never justification for hating someone regardless of their actions.

He told the prayer breakfast audience that he used to have a "hatred for Bill and Hillary" because of their politics. He spotted Sen. Clinton in the crowd and, speaking directly to her, said he "realized that those thoughts of hatred were wrong. I apologized to her for them. I don't know what she thought, but I believe it made a difference."

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/06/29/ap3873584.html
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 10:58 AM
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1. "I thought, I hate them for what they are doing to the country..."
Yeah, 8 years of peace and prosperity, a reason to hate if there ever was one. If you're a Repub. Fucking idiot.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 11:02 AM
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3. Amazing, alright...
Must've had to do with some irrational fear ~ which it seems is almost always the case with Reps.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 11:02 AM
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2. The funny thing is if you ever try to pin down a Clinton hater....
....on why they hate Clinton so much, you always get these vague statements that make no sense.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 05:43 PM
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11. You don't think the mass graves ...
... are reason enough? You don't remember the murder accusations that some of these loons made while Bill was President? :tinfoilhat:

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Clinton_Scandals/dead_friends.htm

The far right done lost their minds when Clinton took office. Even more than usual. Which I suppose is just one more reason to support Hillary.

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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 11:03 AM
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4. Uh...Sammy-boy, in the Bible, it says to not shout your piety from the rooftops
Rather you should do it so that only God knows what you do, and not for the accolades from your peers.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 11:08 AM
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5. They don't actually believe in god.He is their useful idiot,
for their useful idiots

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 02:45 PM
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9. Oh yes, they do.
Sure, there are some pretenders who don't believe and use faith to bilk people or get their way, but I'd say that by far and away most do.

Don't fall into the liberal believer trap; it's tiresome, nauseating and just as dangerous as any other form of extreme religion. Here's the liberal believer's trap: these people aren't true christians and either don't really believe or haven't found the true meaning of the faith. This is dangerous, because it reminds us all, once again, that EVERYTHING that flows from the big Sky Chief is by definition good. Of course, Hitler wasn't a christian, even though he was. Jim Jones couldn't have truly been "of the faith", even though he was. Those guys who flew into buildings on 9-11 were OBVIOUSLY believers in an afterlife, unless they had some communal suicidal streak, yet somehow "faith" is good. On balance, I'd say that faith is bad.

The aberrations aren't really aberrations; they're the logical result of believing in fantasy over reality: justification for any actions one pleases, absolution for one's sins so one can sin as much as one pleases without responsibility and general insanity.

The tiresome chirping that anything done in the name of god that's obviously bad has nothing to do with the action of having faith is not only wrong, it's extremely wrong: these actions spring specifically from the irrational and selfish concept of the faiths held by the perpetrators.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 11:12 AM
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6. They do share so many of the same values, the same politics...
they both support long-time US military presence in Iraq, they both oppose fair trade, they both oppose single-payer (no profit!) health care, both support an amendment to oppose desecration of the US Flag (making the flag an official religious object), both supported the Telecommunications Act that enabled media monopolization....

what's not to love?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 11:19 AM
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7. Doesn't hate the Clintons, but still hates Mexicans, Gays, etc...
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 02:34 PM
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8. If it wasn't for Jesus, I'd still hate them. Of course, I loved Jesus when hating them, too...
Fine. Most people believe. The problem is the ones who REALLY REALLY REALLY believe to such a degree that the observable world means nothing and only fantasy land matters.

This guy's an absolute nut.

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 02:59 PM
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10. Such an ass....
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 06:42 PM
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12. Brownback is a nut. But a nice nut?
Maybe. By most accounts he's a very nice man. And he's good on Darfur.

Still a nutcase though.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 07:35 PM
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13. I know a couple of nice nuts personally...
Pistachios, cashews, and peanuts are all pretty good once you get past their dense outer shells.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 10:07 PM
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16. I do believe he's a nice person, not qualified to even be Dog Catcher, though
Edited on Sat Jun-30-07 10:08 PM by Hippo_Tron
He's good on Darfur and good on the Death Penalty, which is evidence that he at least believes his own bullshit. The man is nuts and should not be put anywhere near a position of power, but I do at last respect the fact that he thinks he's doing the right thing.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 07:41 PM
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14. he just wanted blow jobs and couldn't get any
thats why he is mad at the clenis
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 08:10 PM
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15. Who cares what Sam Brownbeck thinks of Hillary or
his religious epiphanies? His religion has evidently not yet led him to abandon the party that supports killing people around the globe, destroying the earth, and imposign a theocratic law on a constitutional democracy. so who cares?
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