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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 01:02 AM Original message |
Edwards slams the Third Way/corporate "we'll retrain outsourced workers" meme |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. agree/disagree |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. do you have any products made from outsourced labor? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I guess we all have to just shut up about it and not try to make world better, eh? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Lots of 'em |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yours is a recipe for "shut up and accept it" |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. A lack of hypocrisy isn't too high a standard |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Your measure of "hypocrisy" is absurd. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. And your argument, like his, has no substance. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. read my last post (and read this one). |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I agree with the changes you mention re: post-retirement |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. By the way, I have a real problem with two of your premises: globalization is good |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. My guess is |
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mrgorth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Fuck yes |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Hypocrisy, by the way, is, e.g., when you invade a country to bring them "democracy" |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Furthermore, we no longer benefit from globalization (American economic imperialism) |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. you are expressing your unbridled disdain for Edwards |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. not that simple |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. yes, complex. i agree |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Exactly |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Then he should be honest about the impacts |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You forgot to mention the benefits of keeping jobs here |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. why SHOULD I be retrained??? |
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MiserableFailure (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. what is the solution? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. I will find the Third Way article tomorrow. |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. Edwards has the right attitude on this. |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 02:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Didn't it say that, also, in... |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. KICK |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. This "retraining" is a red herring anyways. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I think Edwards's point is that education/training works for first 25-30 yrs of your career |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. I agree with him, to an extent. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Every college graduate should be guaranteed success in a certain field? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I went back for a second degree, and what I saw wasn't promising. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. recommend |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
8. You know, if Bush had said "40 to 50 hours a day " we'd be all over him for the mistake |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Here is what he said: |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Thanks. Sorry I did not proofread! nt |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. He said hours a week nt |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Oh, ok good |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
10. K & R nt |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
28. I could vote for Edwards! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. I WILL Vote For Edwards!! If We Can Get MSM To Stop Hyping Just WHO |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
38. Kick and A Rec - |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
39. We have permitted our Politicians to get away |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I agree |
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PaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. In general I like what Edwards is saying |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
45. Edwards has a passion and a calling in helping those who are struggling. |
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