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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:03 AM
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Faux and CBC considering having debate with just Kucinich, Gravel, and Biden
I hope they back out. As the article notes, this is part of Faux's propaganda effort to win over African-Americans. Democrats should not be helping a notoriously right-wing--and racist--network.

Fox and CBC struggle to save Dem debate

By: Josephine Hearn

==But organizers, including prominent members of the black caucus, are not ready to admit defeat. They still hope to entice (or shame) the front-runners into attending and, failing that, to devise an alternate format to add zest to the show beyond the lengthy discourses of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.), Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) and former Sen. Mike Gravel (Alaska).

"We're moving forward no matter what. We're definitely having a debate in Detroit in September," said CBC Chairwoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, who serves on the institute's board and represents Detroit in Congress. "We may change the format. We might have more than just the presidential candidates," she said.

Under such circumstances, one might expect Fox News to be making for the studio exit. But a representative said the network is "moving forward with the debate as scheduled on Sept. 23."

Fox has been seeking to improve its relations with African-American groups, especially after an embarrassing incident last month when it mistook Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) for indicted Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.), another black lawmaker. Pulling out of the black caucus debate would likely jeopardize the network's outreach efforts.==


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/4812.html
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:08 AM
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1. This might be a bigger winner than they think.
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 01:09 AM by Heaven and Earth
I'm strongly considering watching, just to point and laugh. I would think FOX would love airing a trainwreck like this. In fact, they should make them perform humiliating stunts in between questions. Then maybe they'd learn the price of legitimizing right-wing partisan media.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:13 AM
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2. Fox will make a Goreacle out of this.
OTOH, it will be taking 2 of the most outspoken Democrats and letting them loose on the Republican base. If nothing else, it will be interesting dynamics...
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:48 AM
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3. I still oppose the debate but that is a very good point nt
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 02:49 AM by draft_mario_cuomo
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:36 AM
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4. So,,, Kucinich didn't decline the Faux debate?
I'm surprised.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:38 AM
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5. What, no DODD? No Richardson?
I can't see Biden jumping into that mess, frankly.

But who knows? He could surprise me, I suppose.

Then again, it's our friends at that shitrag POLITICO telling us this, so we need to consider the source....
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:05 AM
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6. What I'd really love to see
Is a cross-party debate ...

Clinton
Obama
Edwards
Giuliani
Thompson
Romney

Let see how everyone fares when there are major disagreements on policy.



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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:09 AM
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7. Kucinich statement on CBC sponsored debate...
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-29-2007/0004596926&EDATE=

"Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich said Sunday he would definitely participate in a
September debate sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus and scheduled to be broadcast on the Fox Television Network. Kucinich said for Sens. Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and Barack Obama to skip the debate simply because it was to be broadcast on Fox was a snub of the Congressional Black
Caucus.

..."America needs a President with the ability and willingness to unite people of diverse political views," Kucinich said, "Let us never forget that the symbol of our country, the American eagle, needs two wings to fly - a left wing and a right wing. I'm prepared to reach out to all Americans.
We all deserve to be heard, and we all deserve to be represented."

..."First Sens. Clinton and Edwards were tricked by George Bush into voting for the war. Then they and Sen. Obama voted most of the time to support funding the war. All three have said all options are on the table with Iran, meaning they are ready to go to war against Iran. This raises
questions about their judgment, about who they are, who they represent? African-Americans - and Fox viewers - have a right to know."

"I know some people object to Fox News," Kucinich said, "and they take issue with Fox coverage, and the way Fox covers the news. I've taken issue with Fox on many occasions, but I don't hesitate to be questioned by Fox or any of its affiliates. I've also taken issue with the New York Times - which, after all, was largely responsible for selling the Bush war plans to the American people. But this will be a live debate. The issue here is not what questions Fox broadcasters will ask, but how the candidates for President will answer them. The issue is not what the commentators will say
after the debate is over, but what we as candidates say during the debate."

"The questions asked by the Congressional Black Caucus will be just as important, and our answers just as telling, on Fox as on any other network," Kucinich said.

"When the Cleveland Indians get into the World Series, and Fox broadcasts the games, I assure you I'll be there," Kucinich said, "and when Fox broadcasts a debate sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus, I'll be there, too."

Authorized and paid for by Kucinich for President 2008, Inc.



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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:48 AM
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8. Apprenttly Kucinich can't tell FoxNews from the Fox Network.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:45 AM
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9. But Kucincih can tell when the intel for war is wrong unlike others.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:48 AM
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10. I doubt Kucinich even read the intell. He is a pacifist.
But I hope you enjoyed his defense of FoxNews.

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