Do you think that the GOP nom is Thompson's to lose?

At first I was skeptical that Fred could be a viable challenger, but just a flavor of the month. And while I do think that Rudy is the most dangerous GOPer in the national election, I do feel that republicans really don't like rudy, mitt, or mccain. I'm glad to see old man mccain slowly dying. Its such a pathetic downfall - losing all his money, now losing his entire campaign staff, and now losing his Iowa staff. I've always thought that Romney had the money and fortitude to fight out a close campaign, but that Rudy should pull it out.

But with Mccain DOA, and though he has no money, I think Fred can really challenge Rudy for the votes. If he can somehow get the nomination, this puts the Dems in a very tought spot. Rudy, Mitt, and McCain all had glaring weaknesses that even republicans saw through. Fred has the Southern appeal to hold onto the swing states.

He might even nominate a female VP to contrast against his "conservative image" - which could weaken Hillary's support.

Granted, Fred hasn't been tested by the media - but he's been in the public eye for a while, so there's a great deal of familiarity with Southern voters and national voters. IMO, Fred is someone conservatives can vote for.

But I still think Rudy has a better chance at winning the national election of all the GOP contenders.

Hillary, Obama, Edwards all their strengths. Hillary has the fortitude to win a tight election, but I don't want a tight election.

Obama and Edwards can win geographically against Rudy and maybe Fred.

at many levels of state ballots.

I don't personally believe the fundamentalist Republican nutcase voter is going to be hogwild over Fred's wife. It's nobody's business but Fred and his wife's, but we're talking fundie nutbags here.

I think all of our people stomp Thompson in what will be a huge electoral college and popular vote landslide.

Fred Thompson has also-ran written all over him.

He's polling fairly well because the rest of the GOP field is a pack of macabre fools.

I guess Romney will buy his way to the nomination, but he isn't likely to do any better in the general than Thompson. Giuliani's a pathetic, monstrous, macho weasel with strong tendencies of a street thug, and McCain is a walking corpse.

I'd rate Huckabee and Brownback over Thompson at this point.

From the Christian Broadcast Network, your basic fundies

Fred Thompson's Secret Weapon

From all accounts, Jeri Thompson is very smart and media savvy. She's been a media consultant and has worked in GOP circles for years. Talk about a top notch pairing! If Americans go for this, it could be two for the price of one. You get a conservative politician turned actor turned politician again...and you get a potential First Lady who could end up being one of the smartest and dynamic the country has ever seen. The Thompson's have two small children. (4 and 6 months old)

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/144288.aspx

She is 40 years old and an attorney, not "goldigger" material.

is not geared toward fair play.

I think they're going to look at Fred and Jeri and see a lecherous old coot who isn't that great of an actor and is some wayward mix of dirty old man and a conservative of fluid voting trends.

I think it's going to be a factor in whether they support Thompson or Huckabee or Brownback in the Iowa primary. If Romney places first in Iowa (he will), and either Huckabee or Brownback place second or a strong third, the incentive and rationale for a Thompson candidacy is dramatically weakened.

guliani hasnt got a chance. i look at it like this. he was scared to death of running against hillary in new york. guliani is very unlikeable.

He's like 90 years old. His having 2 small children is more likely to elicit eeeews than awwwws. You may think Jeri is super neato but half of the voters are female and most of them are pretty damn tired of seeing rich old farts with women young enough to be their daughters.

29 year old "blonde bimbo", But if this marriage has the blessing of Robertson I think the age diff will be over looked.
It would appear to me that it's Mrs. Fred rather than Fred himself that is pushing for and running this whole Thompson for pres. thing. If what we hear about him is correct, that he's lazy and not all that ambitious, then guess who the power behind the throne must be. A 40 year old attorney, former media consultant to the GOP who may just want to be 1st lady. I would actually be more concerned about her ambitions than his.

Women are really tired of being denigrated for getting older, while men continue to be considered viable. And it's the age difference, not her specific age that is the problem. And her being a successful attorney does not mitigate it, if anything it makes it worse.

Dennis too?
After all Elizabeth Kucinich is 31 years younger and twice as tall as Dennis.
Just being 'fair and balanced' lol

Progressive women won't admit it openly but I've been in more than a few private conversations where the youth of Kucinich's wife was discussed in none too positive terms.

Fred Thompson is the second coming. Of course, understand that talk radio crowd is primarily a two-issue bunch.

Issue #1 Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and live as He would have you live.

Issue #2 Try and kill as as many "Messicans" as you can before sundown.

whomped in New Hampshire a week or so later. That will end his campaign, if he hasn't pulled out by tomorrow at lunchtime.

He'd save himself a lot of ego-bruising and cash pay-outs if he wrapped it up by noon tomorrow.

Giuliani looked heroic atop that pile of rubble with the bullhorn, doing the America's Mayor bit, but it's been a while since those days, and the mood has shifted. The price for feeling patriotic includes the extremely painful cost of human lives and international shame, laid at the very feet of the man Rudy said he was glad to have in the Oval Office ("Thank God George Bush is in the White House.")

That war didn't quite go as planned and the pile of rubble Rudy's standing on now is his own political party. His numbers are slipping and he's widely perceived by the Right as strangely liberal on key social issues and by the Left as an inarticulate thug. He's a carrier of the end-of-career virus and doesn't know he's infected.

Romney wins in Iowa for the Thugs. He's got the cash and seems to know how to blur his ideology as he stomps through the pig farms extolling the virtues of ethanol. ("Gosh! I love America!")

Sam Brownback finishes second.

I think Romney, owing to his fat wallet, is the only one of the top three current Thug frontrunners who survives. Giuliani's decline will be slow and painful, and McCain might be out at any moment.

- Mitt wins Iowa and NH. Fred can win out the rest of the primaries.

However, Rudy has a good shot at NH as well, and he can win big in NY, CA, and FL.

days? I thought Romney had surged ahead? Not sure about that, though.

If it comes down to Rudy and Romney, my god. Two entirely unacceptable candidates. Neither one has any business pretending to be a public servant.

The whole GOP pack looks kind of pathetic to me. No winners, no real electoral threats.

but only if Romney wins Iowa and NH - thus minimizing Rudy's support. If Fred can come in 2nd in NH - He will be very strong.

But Rudy or Romney will likely come in 1st and 2nd.

Never underestimate the GOP, that's why Hillary will be the worse Dem nominee.

to appeal to an increasing number of GOP voters.

They can have him!

I expect Giuliani to fade. He's carrying around strange baggage and a kind of Bernie Kerik freak circus, and it just isn't going to play well with conservative/far-right primary voters. He's thick-tongued, too, and talks like a street thug. He seems like a local prosecutor who somehow wandered onto a national stage, and doesn't know what's going on.

If Michael Bloomberg enters the race as an independent, and Giuliani is the Republican nominee, Bloomberg takes the "moderate" GOP voters away from Rudy. Bloomberg won't jump in unless he plans to burn some serious cash, and he's a lot better executive and planner than hapless Rudy. The Democratic ticket, I predict, will win in Michigan and New Jersey -- to pick two fairly safe blue states -- but in a 3-way race, Giuliani stands a chance of finishing third. Bloomberg will make history, even in defeat, but the Republicans will be buried alive.

Brownback is running a campaign that the national media have mostly ignored, but he's in a position to make an exciting splash in Iowa. I'm still calling him second or third there.

Remember, I said it first. Or, if it isn't newtie,forget I said it.

I thought I saw him say that it's way too early to enter the race now, which means he has thought about it and is just waiting for the others to slip and fall.

We haven't heard that last from Newt... he will come into the race as a reborn centrist/pragmatist. Pro-environment, smaller gov't, etc. Don't underestimate his appeal to conservatives and independents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtv1MuYTdZs

As I've said before, he's got MAJOR baggage. If Al gets in (and I all but know he will), Gore will win again. If it's Thompson or Newt versus Clinton or Obama, then all bets are off. Both Newt and Hillary have some serious baggage and it would be a real mudfest.

Be fun to watch, at least.... :beer:

around Labor Day. So we'll see. When his book came out a few months ago, there was a lot of talk about him running, but I don't know how much support he'll get.

It'll be Fred for the pukes and Hillary for us and I'm sad to say, I think Fred will win. x(

but then again I think Hillary would have a tough time with Brownback.

.....member of the GOP will win the White House in 2008. For that to happen the GOP would need a good number of liberal, progressive, and moderate voters. I don't see that hapening.

The reason Thompson is dangerous is that he's a relatively fresh face. He can dismiss Iraq and all the other bush baggage as stuff belonging to "those other guys." As a blank slate people will see whatever they want to see in him and don't underestimate the power of him having been on tv for so long. That's a real electoral plus for him.

He's a much stronger candidate for the repubs than many are giving him credit for. Honestly I think he's the only repub that can win next year.

for a whole host of reasons.

Rudy is their strongest bet.

If they nominate Fred, we win.

and rudy also likes to be in charge, so i see him declining if offered. Also, Rudy can't win the swing states - it would make more sense for Fred to pick someone from or near a Swing state like Ohio or Florida.

Fred Thompson won't get the nomination. The only reason he's in the race is that the rest of the pack has no appeal whatsoever. Mitt is the only real contender at this point b/c he has the money.

Giuliani will never get the nomination. He's pro-choice, pro-gun control, Catholic, pro-gay rights, is from Noo Yawk, & has a ton of baggage in his personal life. He won't play well in the Southern red states. His stance on guns alone will cost him the South. No one down here cares about anything but guns & taxes.

Also, Rudy has too big of an ego to play second fiddle to anyone, so I doubt he'll accept a VP slot. He goes back to NY on Feb. 6th, 2008.

... as is the presidency.

They shouldn't even put anyone up in 2008, the poor devils.

either Fred or Rudy. Second, by the time idiot * gets done with his term and the mess he has made of everything, the people of this country won't trust another republican in the presidency for a long, long time. Once burned, twice shy.

demographics and the trends in the polls then Thompson is probably the only Republican front runner that she has a chance to beat.

two months ago, or Romney was after the first quarter fundraising totals came in... Each of them - when they fully get in the race (and sound like they will continue every last program of Bushco) tanks shortly there after. I don't think it will be any different with Thompson. Heck his first stump appearance in NH was reportedly met with yawns.

if he does poorly on the stump.

Romney leads in Iowa and New Hampshire.
The Ghoul leads in Florida.
Thompson has slim leads in Nevada and South Carolina, so those states are actually too close to call. Thompson's main strength is the Deep South, he'll probably carry those states.
And Romney may carry enough states to deny the Ghoul enough delegates to win the nom.

I think we're still at the point in the race where back in 2004 Joementum was ahead in the polls. Things can change.

As time passes Mr. 9/11's numbers will go down as more of the conservative base become hip to his liberal-leaning views on social policy. Similarly, once the smear campaigns are in full-force against Romney's flip-flopping, Mormonism, and Taxachusettesness, his numbers will drop.

If Thompson runs a half decent campaign, he should win the nomination by default.

too dumb to realize that I'd already replied to this post. :blush:

They're all duds.