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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:06 PM
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Ohio Dem precinct chair disses progressive radio. Howard Dean comments about it.
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 03:51 PM by madfloridian
This is just simply amazing that a chairman of the Democratic precinct in Ohio would be insulting to progressive radio. The blogger posts the letter to the editor written by Democrat Dusty Rhodes, and what was written to Howard Dean about his letter.

First Howard Dean's email in response to it, a thing of beauty:

I agree, This is not only disappointing, but this gentleman appears to be in the wrong party. Progressive radio has it’s problems, but airing disagreements and attacking other Democrats is unhelpful. Feel free to share this with the county chair. We are investing large amounts of money in Ohio. Fortunately the Democratic leadership in general is far more constructive than this particular precinct captain, who should be replaced.


Now part of the letter to the editor which evoked that response from Chairman Dean:

Progressive radio dissed and defended

Progressive radio had chance; listeners said no
BY DUSTY RHODES

"Progressive talk" got its "opportunity." If it was going to be successful anywhere it would have been here.

But it was a dismal failure, just as it has been in virtually every other market in the country.

Liberals simply can't face the fact that most people don't want to listen to their ideology.

So they blame station ownership, management and corporate advertisers.

Because they can't control what people want to listen to, they demand more government regulation.

It's the classic socialist response.


Dusty Rhodes is the Hamilton County auditor, a precinct captain for the Democratic Party and a longtime local broadcaster now on WDJO, Oldies 1160.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/EDIT01/707110312/1090/EDIT


I thought some of our Florida Democrats sounded pretty Republican, but this guy is just too much.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:11 PM
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1. he sounds like a mole n/t
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 03:12 PM by redqueen
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:57 PM
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19. Really! Like the Democrats
don't have moles all over the place! Don't hear of too many Dem moles in the repuke party though do we? :)
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:14 PM
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2. He is not a precinct chair...
He is nothing more than a precinct committee person and represents his precinct when and if meetings are called by the chair...

Mrs. WCGreen is a precinct person or captain, if you will...

He is, however, the county auditor in one of the most republican areas of my state...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:16 PM
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3. Looks like he represented himself that way to the newspaper, though.
Kick his butt all over the place.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:24 PM
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6. Maybe Mrs. WCG can get his ass canned?

Now that would be SWEET! ~~~
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:29 PM
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9. That's the other end of the state...
And the precincts are organized by county...

Wish we could...
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:39 PM
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12. Well then...


We're just going to have her husband (that would be you ~ ..) or your wife..

--run for some very prominent seat in one of the upcoming Ohio elections.

Look at the support system you'll already have RIGHT HERE!!

Do it!

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:45 PM
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14. I would have a few years ago...
But I am disabled now and our days of running for office are overr...

But thanks for the encouragement...

Thanks for making an old fart feel wanted...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:23 PM
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4. Dusty Rhodes is the Hamilton County Auditor?
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 03:24 PM by Totally Committed
Dusty Rhodes, the disc jockey? --- Or Dusty Rhodes the wrestler?

And, this is what he said about "Progressive" radio?

Unbelieveable.

I remember him from way back (if it's the disc jockey, that is).

TC


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:24 PM
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7. You are kidding...He was a disc jockey before being auditor?
:wow:

What a combination.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:27 PM
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8. There was a disc jockey in Boston in the 70's named Dusty Rhodes.
There was also a wrestler named Dusty Rhodes.

I knew the disc jockey (he lived in my building at the time), and he was pretty cool. I don't know the wrestler, though.

Do you know which one he is? Or maybe it's neither.... but, that is a prestty distinctive name.

TC

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:31 PM
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10. Okay, here's what wikipedia has for Dusty Rhodes...
Dusty Rhodes
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dusty Rhodes may refer to:

Dusty Rhodes (wrestler), the ring name of Virgil Runnels, Jr.

Dusty Rhodes (baseball player)

Robert Fripp, who toured with Peter Gabriel's band in 1977 under the name Dusty Rhodes

Dusty Rhodes (folk singer), from the 1920s and 30s. Two of his hits were "Shanghai Rooster" and "Mike the Turk"

Dusty Rhodes (music producer), from the 1960s in the country music scene.

George 'Dusty' Rhodes, a British Army sergeant in WWII and author of the personal history Under the Oak Tree

A radio personality and Hamilton County, Ohio auditor in Cincinnati

Dusty Rhodes (DJ), a former disc jockey on Atlantic 252, British Isles.

Dusty Rhodes (classical DJ), a classical record announcer on KDFC-FM, San Francisco.

Harold Rhodes, an English cricketer sometimes referred to as "Dusty" Rhodes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Rhodes


The british guy was the one I must have known. Nice guy, nice accent. Couldn't imagine him saying anything bad about progressive anything.


TC
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:44 PM
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13. That's lot of Dusty Rhodes, TC.
I knew I had heard that name before.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:23 PM
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5. Here's Rusty's email. How about dropping him a not? I DID! n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:35 PM
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11. Yet another examples of why Democrats lose
and will continue to lose- not only in terms of elections, but also in terms of people who would willing associate or register with the party.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:49 PM
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15. My computer just froze when I tried to use the smilies look-up...
finally had to shut down and reboot. Then I saw it had been added to my journal, which I did not intend to do. Wonder what happened?

Total freeze up. CAD did not work, had to manually shut down.

Oh, well, not a biggie, but I seldom freeze up here. A lot at FDL though.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:08 PM
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16. Thank you, Howard, as usual.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:42 PM
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17. I was a nice statement by Dean.
Clear, polite, to the point.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:17 PM
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18. Oh, for crying out loud
Way to go, Cincinnati! They are so Repuglican down there, this fool deludes himself that he's a Democrat. Guess what, when they canned progressive radio in Columbus and replaced it with conservative radio, the station dropped to the VERY bottom of the ratings.

It would be SO nice for radio to catch up with 70% of the country. Progressive radio listeners (like this Ohio resident whose station was taken away and replaced with another idiot sports radio station) will listen on the computer (what with us being computer literate and all and not getting our stations on the radio).

Why do radio stations pander to 29% of Americans???? :shrug:



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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:43 AM
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24. same here near Cleveland
No progressive radio, ever. Have to stream it.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 02:49 PM
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26. There was a station out of Akron
Until fairly recently. I'm guessing the signal wasn't strong enough to get up to Cleveland. It was "Radio Free Ohio" and had some Air America, Stephanie Miller, and Ed Schultz.

Naturally, it was never promoted, never advertised, never mentioned. Its listeners grew by word of mouth. Then one day we were emailed and told the station was disappearing to make room for ONE more sports talk radio network. I have no clue what their ratings numbers are now, but I'm guessing if they had actually promoted the progressive format instead of keeping it a dark secret, they'd be doing well.

I'm so tired of all the urban legends that pass for "common wisdom" these days. No one listens to progressive talk. Yeah, we do, when you actually provide it for us. Communities like Boston have NO progressive talk. Come on, people, get with it!
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:48 PM
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29. I remember that.
It was sometime in the summer of 2004, if I recall. I tried for days to pick it up. No good, nothing but static. :(

Give NE Ohio progressive radio, and they'll have an audience. That's a no-brainer. And yeah, Boston too. :eyes:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:08 PM
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20. Ayuh, Dean spots him
for the dino he is.

Recommended!~
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crud76 Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:34 PM
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21. It's
the classic wingnut response. Dean's right: tell this guy to move on.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:28 AM
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22. The latest exchange with Dusty Rhodes.....
http://donkeyod.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/latest-exchange-between-the-dusty-the-oreilly-loving-faux-democrat-and-jerry-progressive-radio-advocate/

"Baker, Jerry R )” to Dusty
1:17 pm (7 hours ago)
Hi Dusty,
We’re getting to be regular penpals. First of all, you don’t have to convince me of the viability or the audience for oldies. AND, there is no need to even speak of your own reputation, because it speaks for itself. I’m a baby boomer and I love oldies. When I moved to Cincinnati in 1973, I listened to you on the radio regularly. I’m not campaigning to replace oldies stations with Progressive Political Talk. I’m campaigning to restore this format somewhere in this town, anywhere in this town, for the audience who wants it. There is an audience. OK, it’s not as big as your format attracts, but I don’t think that’s the debate.

I wanted the HCDP Hamilton County Democratic Party to help promote this format because it presents the Progressive, Democratic views to this SW Ohio audience who are monopolized by the right-wing. I like the Ed Schultz show, as well as Stephanie Miller, because every day, they have major voices from the Democratic Party in Congress on the air giving their views. For example, yesterday, Ed had Senator Sherrod Brown on his show, but I was probably one of the few in this town who heard the interview. As long as the right-wing conservatives, like Hannity, Limbaugh, and Cunningham have exclusive rights to the microphone, the Democratic Party will always suffer as a near-silent minority in this town."

Good for Jerry Baker.

That sounds like our area. If I did not have XM and my computer, I would hear nothing but conservative and religious programming.


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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:38 AM
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23. first of all...
'"Progressive talk" got its "opportunity." If it was going to be successful anywhere it would have been here.'

WTF is he talking about? I live in the Cleveland area, and we never got to hear Air America or any other progressive talk on the radio, period. It never even hit the bluest part of the state, NE Ohio. Cleveland is bluer, and bigger, than Cincinnati. How long was it in Cincinnati? I have no idea, since all I could ever do, and still do, is stream Randy, Mike, Sam, Thom Hartmann, on my pc.

You go, Howard. Replace him.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:20 PM
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25. Bullshit.
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 12:25 PM by blackops
I worked at a modern rock station, WENZ, in Cleveland during the 90's. Our competition was the tired, bloated dinosaur, WMMS. Our playlist was lively and active. Our signal was not. (The tower was way out in Amish land. The signal would break up on the west side of Cleveland, but sounded great in (smaller market) Akron, where we excelled.)

After Clinton signed the Telecommunications Deregulation Act into law (grrr), Clear Channel purchased WENZ and combined it with WNCX (classic rock w/ Howard Stern) and tiny AM station WERE. Things were great for the first year, then dropped off significantly. The lizards that worked on the business end began to shun WENZ. Requests for supplies would be denied. Music that played in the offices had switched between 'NCX and 'ENZ on a daily basis, then stayed permanently on 'NCX.

Although WENZ billed more advertising in a month than WNCX, the sales staff concentrated on selling Howard Stern. For the few hours each day Stern was on, the sales staff could make plenty of scratch without much effort. Most of the sales staff was clueless to what WENZ was doing, and couldn't care less.

Things got worse for WENZ. The highly-paid "consultant" told the program director of WENZ that in order to collect his fee, he would have to report that it was the music that resulted in low ratings, not the crappy signal and zero promotions budget. The PD agreed, hoping for quid pro quo. (I know this to be true, as the PD told me this himself.)

WENZ was killed because of greed.

I believe the same thing happened to Akron Air America affiliate/Clear Channel-owned WARF. On the last Ed Schultz show I heard on WARF, Ed had reported that the sales staff complained that they couldn't sell any advertising. IMO, the sales staff was directed to dump WARF.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:51 PM
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27. County chair takes up for Dusty....writes Howard Dean that he's great Democrat.
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 05:52 PM by madfloridian
Somewhere along the line we have lost touch with what is being a good Democrat. Sorry, Tim Burke...Dusty was rude, very rude, to most of us in the party.

Once again, Howard Dean was right, we are right....and we have GOT to stop enabling Dems who act like Republicans.

http://donkeyod.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/hcdp-chair-on-dusty-rhodes-democrat-in-name-only/

"From: Tim Burke

Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:33 AM
To:
Subject: FW: Reply from Howard Dean


Chairman Dean

Jeff took you up on your suggestion and passed on to me your email to him calling for the replacement of Dusty Rhodes. Unfortunately his email to you failed to adequately describe Dusty Rhodes.

Yes Dusty is conservative, among the most conservative members of our party. I frequently disagree with his opinions, as I disagree with his opinions on talk radio. The Hamilton County Democratic Party supported liberal talk radio hear in Cincinnati, particularly Jerry Springer, who annually is our biggest supporter not just in terms of his financial contributions but in helping out in many other ways as well."

So Dusty is on talk radio where he can voice his opinions...and call himself a Democrat while calling the rest of us socialists....makes me angry.

What is wrong with Ohio Democrats? Are they like our Florida ones who would stand up for Republicans rather than us?

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:02 PM
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28. Mr Burke is not happy Gov. Dean commented.
"Thank you for all you are doing to help. I just wish that you had been provided with more complete information about Dusty and the situation in Hamilton County before offering your comments."

Tim Burke

Calling us socialists and saying we did not need talk radio was all I needed to hear.

Perhaps I will write Mr. Burke.
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