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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 11:41 AM
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Edward's HealthCare would include payment for abortions

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-dems18jul18,1,4665778.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

hooray!

Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion


Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.

Speaking on behalf of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards before the family planning and abortion-rights group Planned Parenthood Action Fund, Edwards lauded her husband's health-care proposal as "a true universal health-care plan" that would cover "all reproductive health services, including pregnancy termination," referring to abortion.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 11:46 AM
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1. Oh, no--look at all the wasted slave labor (sarcasm)
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 12:23 PM
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2. I disagree -- this is not a good thing
Pro-choice is by its name, a choice. Once we move from a definition of 'medically necessary' to 'anything on the body' we are going to lose this and big. If pregnancy termination is to be included what is next? Cosmetic dentistry? Face lifts? Gender reassignment?

No, I have to disagree my friend -- this is not a good thing.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 12:25 PM
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3. I disagree, too - especially if it applies to abortion out of convenience
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 12:25 PM by wyldwolf
There is already enough people who will oppose Universal Healthcare. You add abortion to the mix and you have a sure losing issue for the Democrats.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 12:49 PM
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6. women don't abort for 'convenience'


9 months of pregnancy, dangerous delivery, 18 yrs. of parental responsibility, ETC.

is a serious matter to ponder
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:06 PM
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8. yes they do - but my opinion on the matter is irrelevant.
Try selling it to the 58% of Americans who either want stricter limits on abortion or no abortions at all.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 12:43 PM
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13. well, you said it - "my opinion on the matter is irrelevant"


just what 'convenience' was it that the women you know used to abort?
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 12:40 PM
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4. Should pregnancy, fertility drugs, birth control and viagra be covered?
If this are cover than abortion should also be covered.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:45 PM
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16. Should pregnancy, fertility drugs, birth control and viagra be covered?
IMO yes, no, no & no.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 12:41 PM
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5. How does one make a
choice if it isn't included? Woman can choose not to have it as well as have one but the choice must be there.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 12:55 PM
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7. This isn't about choice
The 'choice' angle on this will not change. It is about who is paying for it. I also agree with the post above who mentioned that it would be political suicide. This is a hard enough fight as it is without dragging optional procedures into the mix. People pay for optional procedures now and they would pay for them with NHI.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:19 PM
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9. If war is against my
religious and moral beliefs do I get not to fund it? Choice is not an optional procedure for some women, if it is a choice it should be safe and available.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:35 PM
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10. You are comparing apples and oranges
Again, this has nothing to do with availability -- it is about who is paying for it.

I will bet you dollars to a donut that if this is how NHI is presented, it will never see the light of day as they will not be able to include one optional procedure without including all of them and then the whole house of cards falls.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:35 PM
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11. Nice hit piece from the Chicago Tribune
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 01:36 PM by brentspeak
There couldn't be a more effective way to deliberately demonize the Democrats before the General Election than to trumpet a headline that reads "Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion".
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:44 PM
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12. OP, why are you quoting an obvious hit piece from a RW rag like the Chicago Tribune?
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 01:45 PM by brentspeak
????
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:13 PM
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14. Good. Why should victims of rape not have the option to terminate because they are poor?
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 01:14 PM by LostInAnomie
I guess some think that control of your own body is only a choice the rich should have... just like everything else.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:47 PM
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17. If you report the crime...
That would not be an issue.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 02:04 PM
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19. The hell it wouldn't
Who would pay for the pill (if the girl can get there within the first 72 hours)?

There are plenty of people out there that do not accept abortion for any circumstance.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:37 PM
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15. Good for Edwards! Let's hope he does not back down when the right-wing criticism is leveled.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:48 PM
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18. 4 more years!? (nm)
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