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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:25 PM Original message |
Howard Dean on Maddow also struck down impeachment |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. Impeachment is a process, not a goal. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I think you said it, |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Agreed..... |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. They need to take down these criminals one by one |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. rofl |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. Persistence. That's all that's ever worked. Fortunately... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Then what's the Constitution for, really? And, I heart Dr. Dean. |
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Jack Bone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Stand up w/ us...ENOUGH! |
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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. I just expected better of Dean |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I love Howard but he "de-cojoneyed" himself when he took the position |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yep... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. Well, we could have had Simon who thinks the war is great....or Harold Ford.. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks Andrea, do you have a quote or something? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'm taking the Howard Dean sticker off my car. n/t |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Because? |
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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Here's a link to Rachel's web page |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Thanks, much appreciated. |
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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. I believe I heard it in the last half hour of the show |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Maybe if every |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Perhaps. But I remember Vietnam and every Dem leader in the country was on board at one time. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. and the people |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. They support Impeaching Cheney and so do I. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. There isn't TIME. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It's like dealing with a bunch of Veruca Salt's |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Yeah, and I understand the sentiment. Most of us do. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. What can be passed? We need 2/3 of the house and 2/3 of the Senate to overcome a veto, |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Count the votes in the Senate. It's too close. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. We don't even have 50% in the Senate... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Yeah, we didn't have enough votes for a lot of stuff, but for some reason that didn't stop them from |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. That was part of his point, janx...the time element. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm not a Maddow fan, sorry to say. |
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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. I addressed that Bush is able to ignore whatever Congress enacts in my post |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Andrea, we know this. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Exactly! Well put. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
20. Has any president ever been removed from office through impeachment. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. That's true. Johnson came closest, didn't he? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. 3 have been impeached. One was driven out of office for fear of impeachment. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
32. aaarrgghh |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Of course it is, but when? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I think they should kick the investigations into high gear. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Agreed, but the decisions of the past have hurt the Dem party. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. if you mean it's not easy because the Dems are complicit in the crimes, |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yes, I have to admit that I believe some Dems are complicit, |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I also think they are looking to the 2008 election not wanting to rock the boat. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I agree. It 's not just the right thing to do, I think it's smart from a political stand point. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Oh, I know!!!! |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Name one other matter that can be resolved. or name 2. or 3. I keep hearing |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. See post #15--for starters. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Which of those issues do you see the Dems resolving in the next 18 months? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
34. Dean doesn't have the fucking power to impeach |
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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I don't want him to dismiss it out of hand |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Sadly, it is not Dean's job to make policy. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. there is a clear lack of understanding as to the purview of DNC Chair |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Dean could lend moral support for the rule of law, the seperation of powers, the bill of rights, |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Is this sarcasm? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Where? I thought he was elected to build the party, fund raise, and support Dem |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Yeah, he's doing that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Well, you can have Harold or Simon...most likely. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. No. I like Dean. I don't blame Dean because he's reading off the same script as almost evety other |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. There will be no impeachment. Period. |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
61. Must elicit and contradict their rationalizations face-to-face. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
62. Such a shame that Howard Dean has seemingly been assimilated by the Corporate Dems. |
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