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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:34 PM
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Craig Crawford: Give Obama a Break on Talking to Dictators
You would think that White House contender Barack Obama had proposed giving Fidel Castro the Presidential Medal of Freedom. That is, if you listen to the Illinois senator’s Democratic rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, try to exploit his casually positive response Monday to a simplistic debate question about whether he would meet with the Cuban dictator and other bad guys in the first year of his presidency.

Among Cuban voters in pivotal Florida, it might not be politically savvy to show any openness to a Castro meeting. Clinton went much further yesterday, calling it “irresponsible and naïve,” clearly hoping to boost her ongoing message that Obama lacks the proper training for the Oval Office.

But to voters who are growing weary of the Bush administration’s unrelenting belligerence on the international stage, Obama’s willingness to at least talk to others probably sounds more promising than Clinton’s apparent preference for maintaining a war footing against potential enemies.

http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2007/07/25/cq_3159.html
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:40 PM
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1. This only blew up because ...
Obama tried to spin his way out of his response. Obama reacted as if it was a big deal, and that made it a big deal. He should have just taken note of how she responded and prepared so he wouldn't wrong foot himself again next time that type of question came up again.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:42 PM
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2. NO, it was just reported on CNN that HRC blew this up during a magazine interview yesterday.
;)
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:44 PM
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3. Let me put it this way ...
In every boxing match, your opponent is going to land some punches and score some points. You have to understand that going into the fight and not panic at the first sight of blood.

Obama saw a trickle of the red stuff and reacted as if he was mortally wounded. This would've blown over with little notice if he had just moved on to the next event.

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:46 PM
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5. Hillary Clinton turned it into a controversy.
She's the one who called his answer irresponsible and naive.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:59 PM
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6. No, the media jumped on Obama's response ...
And the contrast with Hillary's response. Obama's people defended him by accusing Hillary of being like Bush. Then it was on.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:02 PM
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8. Obama lost his cool in the post debate "debate"...nt
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:40 PM
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16. No, the media jumped on Clinton's inflammatory rhetoric.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:01 PM
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7. Not really. Clinton saw an opening and sought to exploit it.
Both candidates have pretty much the same position on this.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:18 PM
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13. Bingo! nt
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:26 PM
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14. He didn't wrong foot himself.
That is only your opinion. Many others have a different opinion.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:45 PM
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4. Crawford is being disengenous here.
He seems to accept Obama's post debate spin while ignoring what Hillary actually said during the debate.

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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:05 PM
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9. Both have tried to use the incident to score points...
But there would not be a contreversy if Clinton had not called him irresponsible and naive. What...do you expect him to say nothing and look worse after that?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:32 PM
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10. I'm not gung ho Obama, but I think the terms used by the Clinton camp
Edited on Wed Jul-25-07 01:33 PM by Gloria
were disgustingly Rovian...in that they seemed to be personal attacks. If she had said something like "I've been on such and such committee, and have met leaders as I traveled the world on behalf of the former Administration which he hasn't done" -- that's perfectly valid. But to call Obama "irresponsible and naive" is really just a page taken from the creeps we have now. Disclaimer: I'm not for Hillary precisely because of all the shenanigans with Bushco, DLC, etc. I don't want a continuation of Bush's style....
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:44 PM
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17. Her comments would have been the equivalent of Obama saying...

... "apparently Clinton is just too much of a coward to go toe-to-toe against America's adversaries like previous American presidents did in Rekjavich, Beijing and Berlin".

For a woman trying to overcome the stereotype of women being too weak to lead the United States (though apparently not too weak to lead Israel, India or Britain in years past), Hillary is opening herself up to that very attack on this. She should be happy this happened long before the primary when nobody is paying much attention.


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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:47 PM
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11. Hillary is right - Obama is going to alienate the Neo-Nazi vote.
:eyes:
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:28 PM
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15. Good point! nt
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:54 PM
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12. well...
i suppose this is a more worthwile thing to be arguing about than a haircut.
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