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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:39 PM
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Why is Hillary so emotionless?
I loved how John Edwards is showing passion and acting like he gives a damn when talking about health care, etc. I watch Hillary talk about the war and dead soldiers and she never skips a beat. She doesn't seem to lower her voice. She doesn't have any feeling in her voice. It's almost like a robot or programmed. She doesn't have to cry or anything, but she speaks about all issues the same exact way. I'd love to see her have some passion about something...anything.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:42 PM
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1. ... because the only thing she passionate about is having power.
n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:45 PM
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8. You got that right!
Her aire of superiority and self-righteousness makes the hair on the back of my neck stand on end.
We don't need an American version of Margaret Thatcher, talking low and threatening everyone who doesn't adore HER Empire. :scared:
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:20 PM
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51. How do you know?
So, you're not going to vote for Hilary because she has the wrong "aire"?

Voters projecting their own feelings onto candidates is exactly how we get demagogues like Reagan and Bush for President. I think you've got some issues with powerful women. ("talking low and threatening everyone who doesn't adore HER Empire." Is this some movie script you are writing?)

And, no, I do not want Hilary Clinton to get the Democratic nomination.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:16 PM
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22. Yep. Everything is calculated with her.
She leaves me completely cold.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:19 PM
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26. and if she were a man you'd say she was smart
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:28 PM
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41. Ding!! Ding!! Ding!!!
You got that right.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:43 PM
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2. And if she showed emotion, you would criticize her for it.
So let's put aside the facade.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:21 PM
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27. DING!!! DING!!! DING!!!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:43 PM
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3. As a Matter Of Curiousity, Sir: What Do You think the Answer Is?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:43 PM
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4. I don't see her that way
but I guess if you already hate her, you'll view everything she does or says through a filter.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:45 PM
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9. If you want proof of your statement, check out this thread.
Edited on Wed Jul-25-07 12:47 PM by William769
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3398758&mesg_id=3398758
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:46 PM
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10. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:47 PM
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11. I've said it before...
Hillaryphobia's a helluva drug.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:47 PM
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12. I don't hate anyone
Edited on Wed Jul-25-07 12:49 PM by BluegrassDem
But she's the most emotionless presidential candidate I've seen in years. Most candidates have at least 1 issue that they are really passionate about. I don't know what Hillary is passionate about. She rattles off issues and her stance on them, but where's the passion? She really should take some notes from John Edwards. And does she ever mention anything about poverty? I've heard Obama and Edwards speak extensively about it, but I don't recall what she's said of any significance.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:26 PM
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23. Doesn't bother me
Bush has lots of emotions - even fake tears -
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:24 PM
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28. When a woman shows emotion she's weak...
when she doesn't shes cold. Just say you hate her then move to another thread already.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:06 PM
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37. The most emotionless?
Guess you missed "Bob, I'm really alive, Dole".

And how about quale duck? There was an audience rouser if I ever saw one.

Who was the ex basketball player? One of the walking dead who ran against Gore? (another foot stompin' politician).

Oh. How about Lamar? Boy, he had me on my feet.

And let's not forget Tsongis. I screamed myself hoarse when he spoke.

Yeap. That's what I'm looking for in a leader. :sarcasm:
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:44 PM
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5. She showed passion about health care in the 90s
Cried and everything and they destroyed her for it. It seems she's figured she needs to shut that off to be taken seriously.

The media treats men and women differently and her crying is made to be her being a baby while the Boner crying about not murdering enough people gets a pass.

Rp
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:44 PM
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6. I'm not a Hillary fan - but I will say this
a female candidate that showed too much - maybe any - emotion would be slammed for doing that.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:52 PM
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16. Claire McCaskill shows emotion and she won
There are lots of women candidates who are passionate about something and don't come off as being weak. But Hillary has obviously erected a wall around her and it really shows.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:41 PM
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32. Hillary gets accused of "shrillness" when she tries to "show passion"--
She's in a totally different orbit than McCaskill, anyway--apples and oranges.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:45 PM
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7. I'm no fan of Hillary, but she seemed prerty passionate to me Monday night
As did Edwards. It was Obama who came off cold IMHO.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:48 PM
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13. I'm no fan of HRC, and each time I see her, I'm reminded why: Self-righteousness. nt
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:11 PM
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19. I guess we see what we want to see
I thought Obama was fantastic and anything but cold and I also thought Edwards did his best job yet in this type setting. After the debate I was totally ready to rally around an Edwards/Obama ticket.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:49 PM
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14. You'll probably be flamed but this is a problem for her
People want to see (or at least hear) empathy. The only time I see any emotion from Hillary is when she's personally attacked. If her supporters wonder why so many people say, "Hillary is all about Hillary," her inability to connect with people on an emotional or idealistic level is why. People take what they see and link it to her personal biography, which is marked by serious betrayal and fidelity (on her part) which most people can only explain as a function of ambition, and they conclude she's bloodless.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:50 PM
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15. My guess....the best of the best pharmaceuticals on the market...and conditioning. n/t
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:05 PM
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17. she is programed and cold
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:27 PM
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24. And you're consistent in Hillary bashing
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:10 PM
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18. Women in politics can't show emotion
they would be perceived as 'weak'. Hillary will do fine as President if she gets the nod.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:14 PM
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21. Wrong IMO, Barbara Boxer shows plenty of "verve" ... she's a natural.
No, don't tell me that HRC volitionally lowering the octave of her voice before she "schools Obama" on foreign policy is what a woman leader MUST DO. I served in as a woman army officer and that's just not true. Setting the example in our actions, morals and character is what makes the difference when you consider genuine personas sporting emotions. :shrug:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:00 PM
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36. Tell that to Maxine Waters.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:14 PM
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20. see if you can find exerpts from Carl Bernstein's book about her.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:35 PM
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25. "emotionless" ??? And you know this to be true because ... ???
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:28 PM
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29. You know - c-span ran the debate last nite, and she's not.
If you get the chance to watch again, do it, but focus on her.

She turned white as a ghost when Biden was demanding people tell the truth about Iraq.
She looked extremely uncomfortable when Edwards and Obama were going back and forth about their
healthcare plans. She never looked Obama in the eyes.

There were many 'deer in the headlites' moments.

But of course - CNN said she had the best body language of everyone.
hahaha.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:39 PM
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30. She just doesn't show her emotions
That doesn't mean she doesn't have any. Some people grow up being more reserved with their feelings than others.

Now, I don't particular care for Hillary Clinton as a candidate, but this is not something I have a problem with.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:40 PM
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31. Oh for God's sake. I support Obama, but this is ridiculous.
This lady can't win: Emote too much, and she's a typical female who thinks with her heart instead of her head. Emote too little, and she is cold and unfeeling. I knew people would start in with this stuff--matter of time.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:53 PM
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52. Well said WD!!!! End of story....
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:45 PM
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33. She is one cold woman.
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Mushroom Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:43 PM
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34. LOL "She doesn't have to cry or anything"?
You fickle little ankle biters... hahahaha yipyipyipyapyapyip
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:44 PM
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35. Of course, if she were emotional, people would be complaining that she was too emotional.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:07 PM
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38. After watching the video this afternoon her answers just seemed flat and spoken by rote.
Honestly though,in the end it's what she says,not how she says it.Too much passion can sometimes mask things as well as not enough passion does.It's not a very fair way to make a final judgment on someone.

It's seems that there's a regular buffet of reasons to dislike Hillary.Why choose floor scraps?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:15 PM
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39. Whatever, dude!
:eyes:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:20 PM
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40. I'm told by people who've seen her speak in person that
she's quite exciting, passionate -- really revs up the room.

But I have to agree -- she really doesn't "read" that way during these debates. I think she'd do herself a big favor to be just a bit less scripted, polished and perfect. Some real honest to goodness passion would help her cause, I think.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:30 PM
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42. Nope.I have seen her twice in person.She is flat.I can't remember either speech.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:33 PM
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43. I think she varies from speech to speech.
Sometimes she's good and "connects" and sometimes not so much. :shrug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:34 PM
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44. I just wish I could like her more.But so far nada!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:41 PM
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45. It has to be tough on all the candidates speaking the same things day after day.
I bet they all vary from speech to speech.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:54 PM
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53. Well, obviously that's all going to be pretty subjective
They thought she was dynamite, and were persuaded to support her in the race.

Haven't seen her myself, so I can't offer my own opinion.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:55 PM
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46. Oh come on. You're really scraping the barrel for Hillary insults now.
I'm sure you can do better than that. Just look at the 23 other We Hate Hillary, Inc. threads for inspiration if you need to! Sheesh!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 05:01 PM
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47. A question like this proves that no matter what a strong woman does, she can't win.
If she was passionate, you'd call he a screech or a shrew.

If she stays as detached and professional as possible, you'd call her cold.

If she got angry, you'd call her shrill.

Just what do you expect her to sound like?

Why not ask similar quesitons of male candidates?

I find your OP just plain disgusting.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:14 PM
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48. What a sexist remark.....
I don't give a damn about how she looks or her pink jacket, I care about what she has to say and what her plans are for our country.

Just for comparison, would you say that Kucinich is emotionless......I like him, but he always reminds me of a xmas elf.........
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:19 PM
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49. WTF?
Who said anything about how she looks or her pink jacket?

I'm sorry, but the degree of emotion a candidate displays when speaking is important for both male and female candidates. Hillary Clinton has zero charisma and just seems to not give a shit about anything, kind of like Bush Jr. Every now and then she tries to seem passionate about something, and it comes off as phony as hell (e.g. "There would be an outrage of white people got HIV" and "Isn't it nice that we're discussing women for change?!").

I can't stand her.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:42 PM
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50. It's sexist!!! Let me know when they refer to man as
emotionless. Your just a Hillary hater!
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:56 PM
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54. Well, you're right about Edwards - he's good at "acting" like he gives a damn -
but this is about awarding the Presidency to someone, not an Oscar.
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