How will you support Hillary IF she wins the nomination?

I could not be a positive support for her, so I would leave temporarily until after the cotes are cast.

That will be what I will do IF she wins the nomination.

TC

And the same goes for any of the others who wins the nomination.

I'm leaning toward Hillary, but I'll support the nominee with gusto.

Just like me, you post in every pro-Hillary, anti-Obama, anti-Edwards thread.

foolish

I would not post a poll about someone I hate.

Oh yeah, unlike you, I don't hate any of the dem contenders.

I'll be waiting.

It might surprise that I picked the third choice in this poll.

Despite hardliner idealistic views and positions, there would be ONLY one REALISTIC choice; HRC. It is time to get SANE my fellow DUers!!!!!

..if she is we're screwed anyway..

looking at your sig line.

that sig line was created before any candidates made formal announcements.

I removed one that didn't announce, and one that changed his mind. I added one, sadly, because of his dlc affiliation, and one, frankly, because of his rant about my profession on Monday nights' debate. I've taken enough of those rants over the years, and I'm not taking them any more.

Whether or not I vote Democratic is entirely up to my fellow Democrats. If they nominate a candidate I can, in good conscience, vote for, I will. If they nominate a candidate that I cannot, I won't.

I'm upfront, straightforward, and completely transparent about that. I don't vote to enable continued dysfunction and/or mediocrity. I vote on issues and record, and nothing else. If my party wants my vote, they field candidates that can earn it. That means a candidate with no dlc affiliation, a candidate with a strong, proven record on universal health care, labor, civil rights, and war/peace events and issues. A candidate that supports my profession.

The candidates in my sig line don't meet those criteria.

There IS a difference. I am stunned at the power they are attempting to take. It is scary and, if not too late, needs to be reversed by a democrat in office--not by a republican. So, if you will not vote for her no matter what, your option is...McCain? Gulianni? And their stances are closer to yours?

Reality people.

Those who support her over more electable candidates are the ones that have not learned their lesson. We have a chance to take back the WH, and it seems that many have decided to pick the one that will have the hardest time winning. That is the reality.

This poll proves it, even though it is certainly not accurate. It does show that many Democrats will not work hard for her; which is not what we saw with Kerry. Many were not entirely happy with him as the choice, but no where (including here) did we see Democrats not want to work for his victory.

That is the reality.

is showing in nationwide polls (not interparty ones) that he/she can win and is within the policies of the party. Hillary's vote for the IWR was awhile back, she has explained her reasons and turned around (IMHO)and that is that. If, however, she shows lack of support on reproductive rights, civil rights, universal health care and public education, THAT would be a deal breaker for me. But whoever it is MUST also prove that they pick good people to run their campaigns and prove that their behavior will not damage their campaigns (Swift Boat liars getting away with it, for example).

We're facing ugly Republicans and our usual lazy, lukewarm press so we have to be that much better and on the ball. This time we do have a more receptive general public, but we need a candidate who will not sabotage the campaign and someone whose polls show he or she can beat whoever the Republican is from the outset. I know that respectable polls are highly scientific nowadays, so I'll believe them and watch for who comes out on top.

I've had it with the candidate who is great on the issues but not cutting it in national polls. Or someone who can be effectively outmaneuvered (Kerry deciding to wind surf in a goofy wet suit or whatever it was).

I am a sadder but wiser liberal these days...

That's really sad and I thank you for, perhaps, giving us another Republican administration and all it entails.

Good Lord, this is the DEMOCRATIC Underground and our goal is Democratic victories. If you're not going to support the Democratic nominee go find another website at which to post. This is very annoying.

Edited for spelling.

Don't get too down about it.

If there's one thing this campaign has taught me so far, it is this: there are enough people in this party still willing to vote for the (D) after the name, no matter who it is or what they stand for, to elect whomever the nominee is if enough Independents and Republicans cross over to vote against Bush.

TC

And I also know that DU isn't mainstream Democratic Party. And some people will answer polls like this just to get a rise out of folks - and it worked on me.

2004 was tough here and this campaign season will be the same.

My "issue" is electability. I feel that Obama is the most electable. I also think Gore(if he ran) and Edwards are electable. The only one I think is not electable is Hillary.

Why would we choose one that is so disliked by the right, and doesn't get full support from the left?

;)

TC

If what you say is correct that she is "so disliked by the right" that would be her strongest asset in my opinion. However disliking things intently is a conservative value. I'm passively observing the primaries because my state's primary is late and irrelevant but looking at polls seems to indicate to me that someone is supporting her.

Do you really think using Limbaugh to make your point is a good idea?

40%+ of Democrats are supporting her now. There may be a lot more in the general, but how many more, and how enthusiastic they will be, is a whole other thing.

If she's nominated, she'll get elected in a blue country, just like whomever the nominee is. Bill Clinton was unelectable back in 98 through 2001.

The democratic candidate will have plenty of help from the republican nominee when it comes to providing enthusiastic supporters.

But your attempt was good.

I don't even know what you mean by Bill Clinton wasn't electable in 98 and 01. Did he run in something after 96?

I stayed out of (up to this point) discussions about the dem primaries. Actually it was an outstanding try. Thanks to bush the country is bluer now then 7 years ago.

My sidewise dyslexia got the best of me on Clinton's dates. I intended to put 88 through 91. Ya know, when democrats gave him the nomination cause no one could beat Bush and then we'd finally be rid of the yahoo from Arkansas.

I pledge my enthusiastic support for and whatever fiduciary support I can scrounge up to the person the democratic party nominates. And I am of the mind that whomever the dems nominate in 08 will be highly electable.

And, the reasons people gave for him not being electable are much easier to overcome than what Hillary faces.

Hillary does NOT represent my core values. Period.

I see no purpose in blindly supporting a party. I support Dems because Dem candidates almost universally better represent my core values than GOP candidates.

I can generally overlook a couple of discrepancies between my core values and what a candidate purports to value. But with Hillary, the chasm is just too wide. She is a corporatist with blood on her hands. I really fail to see how she is any better than some of the GOPers.

This isn't a football game where you cheer on your team. Real issues (and lives) hang in the balance.

I cannot support Hillary.

but the enthusiasm some people show in hating Clinton or some of the other candidates is pretty pathetic. If somebody won't support the nominee whoever it is fuck em'

I'll vote my conscience based on who I believe would best represent my country and fellow Americans.Just because I don't like her as a candidate,doesn't mean I hate her..(not at all),it's not about the party,it's about the country.

Electability is all well and good,but the "party" ought to be about the person who has the most passion about serving the best interests of this country.I am sorry if it troubles you that I don't think she is the best choice.We ought to be getting behind someone who has some vision and determination,instead of who is electable.We aren't electing a homecoming queen here..better start thinking about that for the betterment of our country.

I'm getting pretty darn tired of voting the lesser of two evils card.The old "hold my nose" and vote Democrat isn't going to cut it anymore.I'm not being hateful,but it's time for a change from "politics as usual".

No bumper stickers, no canvassing, nothing. Just a vote.

I'll feel more passion voting for an American Idol contestant or for baseball's All Star game than for her.

I will be voting against the republican, not "for" her.

I will work to convince others that we need to save the Supreme Court from republican appointees first - AND ** NEXT ** we need to save our electoral system from the abuses and dysfunctions that lead us to such a lousy choice.

are the 2 most important reasons I am supporting the Dem nominee 1000%.

In all the other polls you've posted, the candidates are referred to by their last names. Why not the same for Senator Clinton? Nobody's under the misapprehension that Bill's running. Why does the woman get addressed with such familiarity, and the male candidates with respectful distance?

Hillary has chosen to go by Hillary. Go to her website and see.

...Like it or not, if she is the nominee, I will do everything I can to see that she beats the Repuke candidate. #1 I think it would be great for this country to see its first female president. It would open up the door to so many more women, I believe. #2 With a name like Clinton she has a very good shot at becoming the 1st. #3 8 years of *bush is not as bad as 40 years of a minority in the Supreme Court. So, 4 - 8 years of President HR Clinton to keep the next 40 years from becoming even worse is a very very small price to pay. #4 Like it or not she is a Democrat. The name Democrat may not mean what it did 40 years ago, but it is still a lot better than anything named Republican.

I will vote for her if she gets the nomination but I'm afraid a lot of people are just not gonna care and won't vote.

because there's no way I will ever vote for Mrs. Clinton or encourage anyone else to do so.