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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:19 PM
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Why does Ghouliani have a reputation for fighting terrorism?
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 01:20 PM by frogcycle
What the hell has he EVER done to indicate he has a clue?

  • He was a tough crime-fighting prosecutor, who got elected mayor based on having reduced crime.
  • He was an unpopular mayor with a seamy personal life.
  • 9/11 happened on his watch. There had been little/no effort either to avoid another attack or to prepare to respond to one since the previous one.
  • He oversaw cleanup - found the gold, had the rubble hauled to Fresh Kills.
  • He tried to extend his term as mayor, but failed.
  • He recommended a mafia thug for Homeland Security Secretary. Said thug had been appointed chief of police because he used to drive Ghouliani's limo.


Am I missing something? How is he any more qualified than the chauffeur to be President? Why do people feel he is the best one to protect them? Did he catch bin Laden when I wasn't looking?
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:21 PM
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1. If by "fighting crime" you meaning "taking credit for trends he didn't create"
and "intense racism"...
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:50 PM
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11. yeah, I cut him a break by giving credit there
but i was trying to make it brief -
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:23 PM
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2. Because that is the sell we are given daily by the talking heads
They are still pushing lies, even if the lies sound a little different than they did 2 years ago.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:24 PM
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14. Exactly!
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Peregrine Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:24 PM
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3. Yes
Located the Emergency Response Center in WTC7 against recommendations of the Police and Fire Departments.

The only reason he went to Ground Zero was to go to the Center which had been destroyed.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:25 PM
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4. huge ugly public divorce battle with his wife?
prolonged odd couple phase post divorce?
dresses in drag?
showed up after 9-11 and sang God Bless 'Murka?



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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:28 PM
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5. The repukes need someone to vote for and they need a reason to vote for them so they make up reasons
for voting. The whole right wing is a big fucking lie!
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:29 PM
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6. Same as Bush. What in the fuck has Bush done? But send in some troops, easy, any moron can do that!
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 01:31 PM by LaPera
But the moron invades the wrong country....Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, even the moron Bush himself has admitted that....No, Iraq is all about having bases in Iraq, for corporate profits by providing for the war machine and stealing Iraqi un-metered oil....fucking Bush keeps changing the reason why we are there....remember it was WMD & the mushroom clouds, then to bring democracy, that failed, then to bring stability to Iraq, that failed, then it was to stop terrorist, that certainly has failed and it's more bullshit to keep the war for corporate profit going, to train Iraqi soldiers to take of Iraq themselves and there will be more changes, anything to keep it going, corporations are making trillions on this war - occupation!!!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:46 PM
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9. The core of al quaeda's power and money lies in Pakistan...
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 01:47 PM by Virginia Dare
and Saudi Arabia. Saddam was hated by the right wing muslim fundamentalists who control and fund al quaeda. They wanted him gone in the worst way. Those are the salient facts. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots from there. Oh, here's dubya and bin laden's uncle bandar now..

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:35 PM
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7. Rudy started all those rumors.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:42 PM
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8. He makes tons of money pretending to fight it?
:shrug: That's all I got.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:49 PM
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10. Guilliani is the Premier Example of what the Media can
create when they put their mind to it. He is the Librul
Meida's contribution to us as our leader.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:54 PM
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12. wait, ya'll
You're listing negative stuff

I was trying to figure out what his resume would say on the positive side

Is there something positive? I can't find it.

For that matter, where is there a single accomplishment for Fred Thompson?
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:54 PM
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19. Fred Thompson played the president in a movie when terrorists wanted to nuke the US
http://www.lastbestchance.org/index_flash.html



Last Best Chance is an educational DVD that dramatizes the modern nuclear threat of international terrorist organizations, produced by the Nuclear Threat Initiative. The DVD is freely available through the NTI-supported website. The film stars Fred Thompson as President of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Best_Chance
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:22 PM
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13. Because that's the reputation his PR firm has tried to build up.
Somehow family values just didn't seem to be his strong suit. ;-)
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:52 PM
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15. Same Reason that GWB Does
Because some media filmed him yelling thru a bullhorn standing on a pile of rubble.

That's it.

It's really that simple.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:51 PM
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16. because he says so
c'mon - it is the way this felonious administration got elected.

Say it often - say it loud - keep repeating it.

- WMD
- Dems will raise taxes
- Dems are soft of defense
- Clinton is a draft dodger
- Kerry is a coward with fake medals
- bush is a compassionate conservative
- cheney is a patriot
- you are a traitor if you disagree
- you are unpatriotic if you disagree
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:45 PM
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17. yep
see my sig line
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:26 PM
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22. perfect
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:48 PM
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18. He was in London during 7/7 ( he has seen a lot of stuff)
Rudolph Giuliani's London Visit

Rudolph Giuliani, who was mayor of New York City at the time of the 9/11 attacks, was staying at the Great Eastern hotel on the 7th of July, where TASE was hosting its economic conference, with Israel's Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as keynote speaker.

Giuliani was having a business breakfast meeting in his room at the Great Eastern Hotel, close to Liverpool Street station when the bombs went off:

"I didn't hear the Liverpool Street bomb go off," he explains. "One of my security people came into the room and informed me that there had been an explosion. We went outside and they pointed in the direction of where they thought the incident had happened. There was no panic. I went back in to my breakfast. At that stage, the information coming in to us was very ambiguous." (quoted in the Evening Standard, 11 July 2005.)

Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Rudolph Giuliani knew each other. Giuliani had officially welcomed Netanyahu when he visited New York City as Prime Minister of Israel in 1996. There was no indication, however, from news reports that the two men met in London at the Great Eastern. On the day prior to the London attacks, July 6th, Giuliani was in North Yorkshire at a meeting.

After completing his term as mayor of New York City, Rudi Giuliani established a security outfit: Giuliani Security and Safety. The latter is a subsidary of Giuliani Partners LLC. headed by former New York head of the FBI, Pasquale D'Amuro.

After 9/11, D'Amuro was appointed Inspector in Charge of the FBI's investigation of 9/11. He later served as Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division at FBI Headquarters and, Executive Assistant Director for Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence. D'Amuro had close links to the Neocons in the Bush adminstration.

It is worth noting that Visor Consultants and Giuliani Security and Safety LLC specialize in similar "mock terror drills" and "emergency preparedness" procedures. Both Giuliani and Power were in London at the same time within a short distance of one of the bombing sites. While there is no evidence that Giuliani and Power met in London, the two companies have had prior business contacts in the area of emergency preparedness. Peter Power served on the Advisory Board to the Canadian Centre for Emergency Preparedness (CCEP), together with Richard Sheirer, Senior Vice President of Giuliani and Partners. who was previously Commissioner at the NYC Office of Emergency Management, and Director of New York City Homeland Security.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050808&articleId=821
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:00 PM
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20. Because he was on the scene in Manhattan while Bush was hunkered down in a bunker on Sept 11?
I will give him that. He knew just what to do on 9/11, unlike Bush, who acted like a shell shocked rabbit.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:12 PM
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21. Because he walked around new York on the tips of his toes
causing his head and shoulders to bob up and down, while the camera caught him waving and shouting orders to people off screen who weren't even there.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:27 PM
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23. He was in the right position, at the right time
on 9/11.
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