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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:25 AM
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Poll question: Ok So who is America more ready to vote for as President
The question is not who will you vote for, but rather who they can most reasily accept as president for the next four year.



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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:25 AM
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1. Both. Absolutely both.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:27 AM
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2. I agree..nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:28 AM
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3. I insist Clinton and Obama should join forces.
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:28 AM by Katzenkavalier
Can you imagine Hillarites and Obamaniacs together taking over the streets of America in 08, helping that ticket get elected?

Unstoppable.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:30 AM
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6. OK but who should be at the top of the ticket?
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 12:42 PM
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15. I've been hoping Gore would enter the race...
But I don't think he will if it looks like one of the current candidates can win the national. It's looking more and more like Clinton will be our next president.

If Gore stays out, a Clinton/Obama ticket is looking good right now. I still like Edwards, but I don't think he'd settle for VP again.

In spite of the two of them sniping at each other now over foreign policy, I don't see a thing that would stop them from running on a ticket together. There are those who might say that two candidates from Illinois is too much (Hillary being a Chicagoan originally), or that it abandons the South... I don't know, I think Obama kind of transcends those arguments, in that he would generate enormous excitement in the South among African-Americans, possiby enough to offset any racism in that region. It all remains to be seen, and all speculation now, but I can't wait to see it all unfold.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:29 AM
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4. Well I am glad we are having unity Saturday :)
But that was not one of the possible answers
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:29 AM
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5. It should have been.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:33 AM
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7. Sadly, neither is my first, or even second choice.
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:34 AM by Totally Committed
Unless a candidate or two (or three) not yet in the race enters, I plan to cast my vote for the "short, funny-looking" guy. Why? He's best on the issues of all in the race so far.

It may not be an "historic" vote, but a vote on the issues.

TC
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:36 AM
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8. I would put my money
on Obama but I am beginning to believe that Hillary would have a chance. My main worry is that this is such a long campaign that we all might destroy each other in the process. We always go through this but the longer it goes the more difficult it is to recover from the wounds. Some of the extreme negativity here against both Obama and Hillary is distressing, to say the least.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:41 AM
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9. It is is not over by February 6, 2008 (after Super Tuesday)
It will not be over until Late August 2008 after a brokered convention. that leaves about 10 weeks to heal the party and win the election.

I do not knowif that will be possible.

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:31 PM
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21. I will bet you we do not have a brokered convention
highly unlikely.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:50 AM
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12. Yes, you bring up a good point..
Some of the unrelenting attacks by opponents border on vicious and divisive. Some of the remarks have become indelible and hurtful. I apologize to anyone who's feelings I've hurt by defending myself from the attacks. If the attacks would only stop so we can ensure a Democratic presidency.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:57 AM
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13. Yep,
I find myself searching for Obama bashing and then try to defend him but I get angry and I am sure you do the same defending Hillary and you certainly have had plenty of anti-Hillary trash on here to keep you busy. If we have a favorite candidate and someone maliciously attacks the candidate there is a natural tendency to get nasty in response and it is especially true if one is attacked or demeaned while defending his or her candidate. Your honesty in this is refreshing. The sad thing is that we all want a more progressive government whether it be Hillary, Obama, Edwards or whoever and in the end we will sink or swim together.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:48 AM
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10. Neither!
Americans will vote their fears, again!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:50 AM
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11. Have faith!
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:55 PM
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22. I have faith that we will all unite against a common enemy of the people,
to do otherwise, at this time, is unthinkable!!

Having another rethug in the WH would be the end....................

I think one of the things that will sink them in the end, is they still are supporting this war, but then again, that rhetoric will probably change.

I think dems need to put-up some wedge issues on the ballot, and beat them at their own game...oh....well there will be plenty of time to talk strategies on DU!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:12 PM
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27. With Hillary, Obama or Edwards, America wins.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:23 PM
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35. With Hillary, America loses. She is a neoliberal imperialist!
Kucinich best represents the interests of the American working class.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:14 PM
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52. Ok, already (slap, slap)! Pistols at dawn.
No text needed.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:58 AM
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14. America Wants Karl!
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 01:53 PM
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16. Bull shit poll, how about neither which is my choice and that of too many other voters
to see either one elected in '08.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 02:12 PM
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17. I said hillary but only because of Bill
if the choice was them and them only I think most people would choose hillary because of bill and alot of people who would say they are not racist in the box would vote that way.

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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 05:40 PM
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18. This is an extremely unfair poll trying to draw out hidden racist & sexist tendencies in DU members
You ought to be ashamed of yourself for posting it.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:43 PM
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19. Obama is falling for the trap
laid out for him by the radical right. You are asking what trap? The trap that forces him to speak to the issue is he black enough. Who but racist would want Obama to say he is black enough....Who do you think the racist gop would rather run against, HRC or Obama? Obama of course....
I do thank you
Ben David
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:10 PM
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26. Thank you! Major screw up IMO
I've yet to see a black person ask if Obama is "black enough." The white media is asking on behalf of blacks, which is total BS. Obama gave this manufactured issue credence by addressing it!!! Now they FINALLY have something to run with.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:28 PM
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20. After Katrina ---- electing Obama seems so right.
It's time to just go for it. Obama isn't perfect, but I believe he stands apart from the rest on many issues, enough to garner my vote. I believe racism is more pervasive than anti-feminism; the latter being too sophisticated for some of the Neanderthals. It's time to clean up on aisle 5.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:00 PM
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23. But do you think he could win
in this current climate of racism? In the 60's racism was more open and overt, it seems now, it is just more subtle and covert.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:08 PM
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25. yes, I think he could
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:13 PM by AtomicKitten
I think most Americans were appalled by Katrina and it really caused some acknowledgment individually. Ugly stayed ugly. Everybody else was repulsed by the vile image of what we did as a country, or didn't do as the case may be. On tee-vee. 24/7 coverage. And it's still not right.

I keep thinking if Obama kicks it up a notch he could be an RFK with his talk about quiet riots, but maybe that would scare whitey. Holy sh*t, of course it will be looking racism in the eye, but I think the time is right for a go at it.

Keep your eye on this guy. He's noteworthy.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:13 PM
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28. White America likes Obama, and so does the rest of America
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:15 PM
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30. his fan base crosses a lot of no man's land in politics
it's part of his amazing appeal

he has more individual donors than any other candidate. That's grassroots, baby.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:17 PM
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32. All races and ages just simply like Obama. agreed
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:20 PM
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33. I also think if you discount someone because you don't think they can win due
to race or gender you are in your own way being prejudiced.
Both candidates stand as good of a chance of winning as a white man.
To not support one or the other based on this person cannot get elected because.....
is really defeatist and dumb. this country elected a disabled man in a wheelchair 4 times. Get past this. it is as silly as he is black enough.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:23 PM
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34. Frankly, it surprises me you went from
Gore to Obama, I see no similarities whatsoever! RFK is a bit much, unless you count looks and age.

To me, BO is like a blank slate whose story has yet to be written.....

I tried to be impressed by him, but I'm not!

But one thing is for sure, he's lucky to have you on his team!

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:26 PM
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36. oh pershaw
I think you overestimate me and underestimate him.

Gore is my choice by 14-1/2 miles. Of the rest of the lot, I'm throwing my money behind Obama in the preliminary round that ends in crushed dreams for some.

I'm looking beyond the primary and am working on projects already for the general when the much deserved and long overdue GOP ass-kicking will ensue.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:38 PM
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37. So your saying you are voting for someone who is going to lose?
AK, the problem is that many people do not want to take a chance on Obama, whether it is his lack of national/foreign policy experience or his electability factor, and I think it's understandable, considering our current situation.

I have done a careful analysis on Obama, and have based my decision on a lot more than just common sense.

So with all due respect to you, I have already made up my mind, as you seem to as well.......
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:41 PM
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38. actually Obama has the best chance - according to a preponderance of polls -
to win in the general.

What I'm saying is I prefer Gore but if he doesn't run I plan to support Obama in the primary but will ultimately work balls-out for whomever gets the nod.

That's all I'm saying.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:44 PM
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39. Obama will be our next president.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:46 PM
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40. that would be a great beginning
to the change this country so desperately needs
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:48 PM
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41. Hillary will be
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:49 PM by laugle
the nominee and she will win in the general election as well.....of that I am certain...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:52 PM
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42. and we will toast the winner --- cheers! (nt)
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:45 PM
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46. I know you will campaign for Obama when he wins the nomination.
Obama '08!
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 05:29 PM
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47. You bet I would, don't ever doubt it! nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:44 PM
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45. A lot of the people that were voting in the 60's are dead now
Racism is very much alive and it is indeed more covert than it was in the 60's. That doesn't take away from the fact that it declines with each generation.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 05:33 PM
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48. What a horrible thing to say about the baby-boomers!
We are very much alive and active and I'm sure many of them are DU members.

Geez......where do you get your statistics?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 05:49 PM
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49. Not talking about the baby boomers, talking about their parents and grand-parents
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 06:31 PM
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50. Thanks for clarifying that! But my dad is 85, people are
living longer you know and they say that older people vote, so don't count them out!

My father is one of the few WWII vets, who survived 3 years in a Japanese prison camp, the bataan death march and actually flew over Japan and witnessed the devastation of our bomb. He doesn't brag about it, but, he has 7 medals, including the purple heart, and a presidential citation.......so don't count these people out.......some of them are still alive to tell the tale..........
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 06:36 PM
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51. I didn't say all of them are gone, but many of them are
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:04 PM
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24. Why is'nt the white male dude (Edwards) in your poll?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:13 PM
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29. When it's just one person alone in a voting booth...
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:14 PM by rucky
you never know. The racist sexist cockroaches have changed their rhetoric, and we don't really see the overt stuff so much. But so many Americans are so small-minded about so many things, you just never know.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:16 PM
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31. both. I think you guys underestimate people. Many are more concerned
with who they like and can address what ails the country. If neither one is picked it is not because of race or gender. There are far more intelligent people than you guys think and I think you insult many by just stereotyping the average person as ignorant and prejudice.
Here in Illinois we have factory workers and farmers. these are the people who vote for Obama as senator.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 03:22 AM
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43. The first candidate since the New Deal for transformational change: John Edwards
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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 02:07 PM
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44. Only two choices? WTF?
There are many other candidates in the race, so why offer only these two choices?

I don't have a dog in this fight...my candidate is not in the race (yet), but think you should have offered DU'ers a fairer field of options in this poll.




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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:54 PM
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53. Neither...there should always be another option....
oh wait...there is ... the repub.
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