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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:46 PM
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...make a law that says the crime we committed is no longer a crime. And then call ourselves heroes
FISA courts dismantled just in time
August 12, 2007
By Marlene Lang
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/lang/504761,121LNG1.article

What if you or I could secretly commit crimes against our fellow citizens, bury the evidence of the crime by stamping it "TOP SECRET," refuse to answer questions when we are accused of committing the crime, and then, before we can be prosecuted for the crime, we can make a law that says the crime we committed is no longer a crime. And then call ourselves heroes.

Welcome to the New America.

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One week ago, the FISA court system was effectively set aside by your president and his sneaky administration, in the name of keeping you safe.

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But, just a nose ahead of the first serious legal challenge to the NSA's spying program, Bush signed a law on Aug. 5 that revamps the NSA program, broadening the spy scope, making it all legal.

<<snip>>

The FISA courts have been stripped of any real oversight; the attorney general and the director of national intelligence will now approve international surveillance. There will be no examining of the individuals being spied upon, to decide if the surveillance is reasonable. Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell called it "modernizing" FISA, and graciously submitted to post-surveillance "reviews."

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So, relax. You can trust the Administration of the Freely Reigning Executive never to abuse or stretch the limits of its power. Or, you can stay off the phone with your friends overseas.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:50 PM
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1. stay off the phone with your friends overseas, don't email them and don't trust VOIP.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:56 PM
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2. Yeah, my dilemma...
Should I continue to email my friend in London, and if I do, will I be on some kind of watch list? We grew up and graduated high school together and have always stayed in touch. He moved to London about 10 years ago because of a job transfer and he loves it. We have kept in touch through email, can we still do that? Of course the recently passed bill will not change that, but will I now be harrassed?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:14 PM
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3. IT depends. If you end every message with a tag line like
jr is da BOMB. I am going Nukler over this latest outrage.

But wtf do you care? Just keep on carrying on and see if your friend can make room for you in the bunker.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 02:18 PM
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4. I don't care...
its just bullshit that it even has to be thought about. But we will share the bunker. LOL!!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 03:59 PM
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5. I feel you. I do not want to say "If you have nothing to worry about you will not care"
The abuses and outrages of of the corrupt cabal must be resisted. But the best thing in the end is to be able to laugh at their pathetic personalities.
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