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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:25 PM
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I'll vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is, but
1. I just wish that for once the nominee isn't person who used support from big money donors to drown out all opposition in the Primaries

and

2. I just wish that for once the nominee isn't so Democratic lite that there is absolutely no interest in the general election.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:33 PM
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1. I wish
RFK, Jr. would run.

If RFK, Jr. ran he would win in a landslide!

In the meantime, I'll go again with DK.

:dem:
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:53 PM
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9. RFK, Jr has very little chance of getting elected, unfortunately
He pled guilty to heroin possession - a felony.
I'm not saying that would stop me for voting for him. If he ever ran, I would.
But I do think it makes it unlikely he would ever even get nominated if he ran.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:40 PM
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2. My thoughts exactly
The fact this primary season is so front-loaded also means that if we are stuck with a DemLite, it'll give Nader plenty of time to scream about how there's no difference between the parties ... again.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:46 PM
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3. What difference is there between the DLC and GOP?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:54 PM
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5. Not much except Supreme Court Justices
and we've already seen how important that is. I'm just praying we get a REAL Democrat this time out; we shouldn't be focusing on independents only -- let's get out the base and a lot of disaffected lefties who've stopped voting altogether!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:30 PM
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6. oh let's see
1) Anti-science agendas. When did the DLC ever nominate a virulent anti-contraception wacko as head of the FDA, or prevent the Surgeon General from supporting a sensible helath initiative because it offended the fundies? Let alone censor websites that talk about earth sciences?

2) Fiscal restraint. What DLCer supports budget deficits of 300B+, not including an off-budget war - to finance tax cuts for millionaires. Last DLC prez we had raised top bracket income taxes and got us a surplus. Bad DLC! Bad!

3) Politicization of DoJ. Only two USAG's of that same DLC prez's choice were removed for reasons other than promotion or term completion - both committed acts of moral turpitude.

4) Unemployment reduction. DLC prez - went from 7.1% to 3.6%. GOP prez? Back up to 4.6%. Bill Richardson has created tens of thousands of new jobs in a high-poverty state however, against the national trend. Bad DLC again! No!

5) Pro-choice. Name the DLCer who wants to overturn Roe or nominate "strict constructionist" judges at all levles. Now name the GOPer who hasn't used at least one of those code words.

6) Starting wars of choice. Combat deaths of troops sent uinto harm's way by DLC prez = 0 (accidental deaths in Bosnia and Somalia was Bush's baby before you try either). GOP prez? Gosh who knows but 4000 or so at least. Hillary (and Bill R - who is DLC too right) says she'll bring the troops back in a sensible manner. DUers say she won't (will he?). Forgive me if I go with the one who will actually get to make that call.

7) DLC prez - plummetting violent crime. GOP prez - back up again! No difference there (OK OK that's probably a corollary of decent economic stewardship, but it's also got to be affected by hopelessness and lack of optimism in society too)

8) Health care - DLC candidates at least want to get it for more people. Sorry if they don;t want to do it your way, but GOPers don't give a damn and 46 million is fine by them. You asked for differences I believe. Not perfection right? Ask someone whose sick kid gets covered - even via a for-profit HMO if ned be - if they like the difference or not.

9) Cronyism and corruption. No a DLC prez won't pick people they don't know and trust for key cabinet or senior positions (would Kucinich? Would anyone?) but they are generally not too keen on unqualified buddies, no bid contracts (one of Hillary's key issues I believe) and the rest. In fact Hillary actually has the best plan in this area I've seen so far - even better than my choice Bill Richardson. Here it is:
Banning Cabinet officials from lobbying a Hillary Clinton administration.
Strengthening whistleblower protections.
Creating a public service academy.
Ending abuse of no-bid government contracts and posting all contracts online.
Cutting 500,000 government contractors.
Restoring the Office of Technology Assessment.
Publishing budgets for every government agency.
Implementing Results America Initiative to track government effectiveness.
Tracking and eliminating corporate welfare.
Expanding voting access and safeguarding voting machines.

Now does that sound like GOP to you? Why?

10) Oil industry ties vs. Energy reform. Which GOP candidate wants to put billions into alternative energy research? Bill and Hillary both do.


And ten is a nice round number to stop at, but hey let me know if you need another batch.




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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:46 PM
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8. Thank you sir. May I have another?
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:54 PM
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10. Sure - I have a meeting in 7 minutes but check back in the eve, NT
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:56 PM
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11. please, sir, hit me again!
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 04:01 PM
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12. Good job. Amen I am so sick of
people whining about who is more progressive.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:40 PM
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7. He won't be the only one screaming if we get a DemLite
Country is demanding change. We will see once the primaries start the way things are going.
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presspeal Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:49 PM
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4. I would agree with you,
if one man wasn't running.
Go Dennis go!:headbang:
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