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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:39 PM
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"Survey: Evangelicals Worry Most Over Health of Churches" UPDATED
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 02:59 PM by Heaven and Earth
When it comes to what changes are "absolutely necessary" for the United States to address in the next 10 years, the most likely answer among Americans pertains to children's future. Among evangelicals, however, the priority was much different, a new survey found.

Among various groups – including conservatives and liberals and blacks and whites – the latest Barna survey found that the most radical differences of opinion on what needs to change in America were between evangelicals and those who are not born-again Christians.

Overall, 82 percent of American adults said a change in the overall care and resources devoted to children is absolutely necessary in the immediate future. Evangelicals were 20 percentage points below in ranking that issue a top priority.

While enhancing the health of Christian churches was listed as the lowest priority among Americans (44 percent), evangelicals listed it among their highest priorities in changes that need to be addressed.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070821/28993_Survey%3A_Evangelicals_Worry_Most_Over_Health_of_Churches.htm


Looks like the priorities of evangelicals are sadly misplaced. I hope politicians of both parties take this into consideration when deciding whether to pander to them.

UPDATE; From the report at Barna.org:

Currently, evangelicals represent 8% of the national adult population. That projects to approximately 20 million adults.

(SNIP)

"Evangelicals" are people who meet the born again criteria (described below) plus seven other conditions. Those include saying their faith is very important in their life today; believing they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs about Christ with non-Christians; believing that Satan exists; believing that eternal salvation is possible only through grace, not works; believing that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; asserting that the Bible is accurate in all that it teaches; and describing God as the all-knowing, all-powerful, perfect deity who created the universe and still rules it today. Being classified as an evangelical is not dependent upon church attendance or the denominational affiliation of the church attended. Respondents were not asked to describe themselves as "evangelical."

"Born again Christians" are defined as people who said they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today and who also indicated they believe that when they die they will go to Heaven because they had confessed their sins and had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Respondents are not asked to describe themselves as "born again."

http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrow&BarnaUpdateID=277


20 million adults fall into that category, as strict as it is? I find that astounding.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:41 PM
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1. Cry me a river
Then try and walk across it.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:47 PM
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3. Shouldn't they be more concerned about unprotected sex
with male prostitutes as a major health issue for evangelicals or are they in Denial? Maybe thats the river you refer to.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:50 PM
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4. No, otherwise I'd tell them to seep me some santorum
:evilgrin:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:53 PM
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6. That doesn't count as "sex" sex. So, no.
:evilgrin:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:42 PM
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2. That survey illuminates the truly insane world view of many evangelicals
I believe that many of these people are mentally ill. Mentally ill people are dominating a large portion of our nation's policy.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:51 PM
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5. Fine. They can address the health of their churches on their own. Leave the taxpayer out of it.
and me, too.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:57 PM
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7. "The Health of Christian Churches"
I do believe they are pretty sick, but the fuckers are tax exempt, I can imagine my families health situation if we were tax exempt. Fucking whining pricks and no doubt any and all of their troubles are due to external forces; cause they sure as hell aren't responsible for anything. Responsibility is for others. Maybe I'll just open me a big ole church by gawd.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:09 PM
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10. Makes sense to me.
Make sure that the church philosophy you devise serves your interests first and foremost. :evilgrin:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:58 PM
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8. Are they suggesting they are not effective enough in hating others
and their attempts to use the constitution as a weapon is failing, ergo they are in Ill Health??
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:58 PM
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9. Fundies better start praying about the ass-kicking their --
party of choice is about to undergo.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:14 PM
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12. Wouldn't it be so nice for them
if we just did away with that messy constitution. Who needs freedom after all. I'm not good at predicting stuff but I sure hope your ass kicking statement comes true.

For evangelical lurkers, take a moment and consider that a whole bunch of your fellow Americans (many who served in the military) consider you a domestic enemy of the constitution. It does not exist just for you. And tax exempt status is not in the first amendment.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:21 PM
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13. Fundies have lost all sight of the essence of Christianity.
The word is derived from 'Christ' not from Old Testament fire and brimstone that is long on violence and all its negative connotations and extremely short on the admonitions about loving your neighbor and the hypocrisy of throwing stones. Their squishy fundie minds have been molded to support a political party that is the antithesis of anything in the neighborhood of Christ-like.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:10 PM
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11. So, does this mean that evangelicals truly are not a 'moral majority'?
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 04:04 PM
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14. surely The Rapture will take place les than 10 years from now?
:sarcasm:
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