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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 12:36 PM
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NYT editorial: Stacking the Electoral Deck (by rigging California)
Stacking the Electoral Deck
Published: August 22, 2007

The Electoral College should be abolished, but there is a right way to do it and a wrong way. A prominent Republican lawyer in California is doing it the wrong way, promoting a sneaky initiative that, in the name of Electoral College reform, would rig elections in a way that would make it difficult for a Democrat to be elected president, no matter how the popular vote comes out. If the initiative passes, it would do serious damage to American democracy.

California currently gives all 55 of its electoral votes — the biggest electoral college prize in the nation — to the candidate who wins the statewide popular vote. Virtually all states use this winner-take-all method. The California initiative, which could go to a vote in June, would instead give the 2008 presidential candidates one electoral vote for every Congressional district that they win, with an additional two electoral votes going to whoever got the most votes statewide. (Democrats appear to have backed off from plans to try just as anti-democratic a trick in North Carolina, which is good.)

The net result of the California initiative would be that if the Democratic candidate wins in that state next year, which is very likely, the Republican candidate might still walk away with 20 or more of the state’s electoral votes. The initiative, backed by a shadowy group called Californians for Equal Representation, is being promoted as an effort to more accurately reflect the choices of the state’s voters, and to force candidates to pay more attention to California, which is usually not in play in presidential elections. It is actually a power grab on behalf of Republicans.

The Electoral College should be done away with, but in the meantime, any reforms should improve the system, not make it worse. If California abandons its winner-take-all rule while red states like Texas do not, it will be hard for a Democratic nominee to assemble an Electoral College majority, even if he or she wins a sizable majority of the popular vote. That appears to be just what the backers of the California idea have in mind....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/22/opinion/22wed1.html?hp
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 12:39 PM
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1. The election process needs to be standardized.
This kind of heat-seeking missile attempt to gain advantage by the GOP needs to be stopped in its tracks.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:29 PM
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2. Since it is a Federal election why should the states have any say?
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:35 PM
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4. According to the constitution,
States decide how to choose and allocate their electoral votes.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:34 PM
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3. I think this is Rove's last dirty trick.
People need to start mobilizing against this now. Because it will be voted on in an off-year election, it's possible that only a handful of voters could make this law. When I think about some of the ballot initiatives that have passed in California, and the massive, deceptive ad campaigns that preceded them, I get really scared. :scared:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:30 PM
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5. Me, too, lurky! nt
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