Who are the Joe Biden supporters here at DU?

You know, I have no clue whom to support for president, but it's tempting to volunteer for the Biden campaign. Sure, I don't think he has much of a chance, but I do like the guy, met him & his family several times. I like how he's been cracking down on the war (yes I know how he voted in 2002 - don't tell me the fricking obvious).

But I think it would be neat to be able to help out a campaign where the HQ is right in my hometown and where I'll see the candidate from time to time. Just think it would be a great experience. Do we have any supporters here?

I suspect that most of Biden supporters were already on my ignore list before Biden even announced he was running.

I'm not saying that I plan on putting everyone who supports Biden on my ignore list, or anything like that.

I'm just saying that supporting Biden usually requires a certain amount of Ignorance or Douchebaggery that I can't often bring myself to tolerate in someone.

See related threads:


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Dear Senator Biden
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So far, I've liked what he's had to say more than any of the other candidates. I'm really not thrilled with the frontrunners (Clinton, Obama, Edwards), and the bottom feeders (Gravel, Kucinich, etc.) are bottom feeders for a very good reason. Unless Gore enters the race, I'm giving some serious consideration to either Biden or Dodd.

Of course, I'll vote for any Democrat in the GE.

A Biden nomination is the ONLY nomination that would cause me to either vote across party lines or stay home.

And your citations above only further exacerbate that.

Care to explain your irrational hatred of Biden?

Is just one of those irrational "HATERS". He refers to Biden supporters as ignorant and then turns around and calls them "DOUCHEBAG" and HE puts them on ignore. :shrug:

we'll see

He's bent over backwards criticizing Congressional Dems when I'd bet good money he'd have done the same thing in the same position. Obama's done the exact same thing with IWR. That doesn't sit well with me. It's barely a step above swift boating, in my opinion.

They would be wise to back off that issue, as they weren't there and we'll never know how they would have voted.

Looks like he's a "Citibank" Mexican . . . .
and is aligned with Kissinger's law firm!!!!

Also, he did something really odd in denying the New Mexico recount --
and now you can't get one unless you put up more than a $1 million bond -- !!!!

Even before reading this, I didn't trust Richardson --

He is saying exactly what we want to hear, but
if you listen to the experts - you cannot just pull our troops out quickly.
Even Hilbama agreed.

I have other issues with Richardson, but that is my main one.

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I don't think this will be a major issue unless someone makes a YouTube video stringing together all of his "foot-in-mouth" moments ... His remarks seem to offend certain groups within the democratic base: environmentalists with his unapologetic oil investments, civil rights groups because of his DOE nuclear secrets investigations, and now gay-rights groups. But those groups don't necessarily talk to each other.

It drives me crazy that they don't -- !!!!

a very nice reply. He's very smart on foreign policy, a "suffer no fools" guy with an Irishman's tongue. I love it. Since this board seems to be thriving on bashing everyone and their spouses of late, a discussion of Joe without bashing would be a treat....

but he is very intelligent and an amazing speaker.

I've met him and most of his family since I've moved to Delaware - all lovely people. His son Beau is Delaware AG but turns out Beau is being sent to Iraq probably in 2008 (he's a reservist with the JAG).

He is incredibly smart, practical, and experienced.

I have not decide on a candidate to support as of yet (unless Gore runs).

Cheers
Drifter

to the insurance industry and the way he helped the bankruptcy bill through.

Other than that, I have no problem with Joe B. I sometimes worry that he will say something stupid (i.e. the Gandhi Mart comment a couple of years ago)

If you can help him out go for it! Any Cowbell he gets, can't hurt!

and since that's the #1 employer of Delawareans (including myself) it doesn't bother me as much as some of his other votes

Insurance is Connecticut and Lieberman. And I am not comparing those two.

that we surround the state of Maryland and force everyone from that state to pay triple tolls

:grr:

who the hell do YOU have running for president?

Remember who was running from CT that year? :scared:

The only times I voted republican were in 1988 for Lowell Weicker and in 2000 for Joe Lieberman (DINO). Ironic that the guy Joementum ran against was convicted to 37 years for child molestation.

Not kidding

independent against (Rowland-Rebublican Values-Prison) and a Democrat who actually finished third.

BTW, did Ridge run a color coded campaign?

You just wrote off the whole state of Maryland! If those are the kind of remarks you have to say. Zip It! Loose lips sink ships.

second - madinmaryland and I have a running joke about the MD/DE borders (along with a few from NJ).

Trust me - if I posted any other comment madinmaryland would probably alert the admins that someone has hijacked my account.

Come to the lounge - you'll see the love that we DE DUers share with our neighbors

:hi:

and hey, be careful when you enter The Lounge - that place is full of cards, they ought to be dealt with :rofl:

Oh, sorry, no joking in GD :yoiks:

I was about to say that I get the feeling that these two have met before.lol!:)

:hi: where are you from?

...and then we'll leave you alone.

Besides, once Delaware wins its rightful claim to everything east of the Susquehanna, we can reduce the tolls.

You don't understand. This is a small state. Every time someone comes in from Maryland, we all have to move a bit to make space.

If we are thinking of the same thing, wasn't that Hillary?

but it was to the effect that Indians run the local quickie mart.

Hillary is to stiff to say anything off the cuff.

we were indeed thinking of the same thing http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/elec04.s.mo.farmer.clinton.ap/

but do like Biden more than some of the others. I could see myself supporting him.

The way things are going I might not make up my mind until I hit the voting booth in February. :shrug:

Mz Pip
:dem:

I still blame him for Clarence Thomas, he chaired those hearings at the Senate Judiciary Committee in a very ineffective manner.

but I didn't know who Joe Biden was in those days. It was a long time ago and I think he's grown a lot since then.

I will never forgive him for that mess. He set the whole thing up as if Clarence and Anita were applying for the same job and then made them have a mud wrestling match for the whole world to watch. As referee he was clearly in favor of the guy over the girl and allowed the guy and his corner to fight dirty.

I knew Anita personally. She did her patriotic duty. The result for her - a nightmare from which she has never fully recovered professionally. And Biden just wanted the tv face time.

If he were to get the nomination I would simply not vote.

What happened during those hearings was simply outrageous --

You know, we should really have like PBS or C-span run the entire Clarence Thomas hearings --

They would be such an embarrassment to Thomas that they've never let it happen --

What garbage that man is --

And, Prof. Anita Hill was superb -- and still is --

Biden did a great deal of harm that he has never been accountable for --

that the witnesses who were employed at the EEOC who could confirm what she had said of her experiences and of their own observations of Thomas -- and some with personal experiences with Thomas -- would be able to testify. Then he cut the hearing off in the middle of the night after having spent four hours with a guy trying to suggest that Prof. Hill was angling for a date with him!!!! In the end, the guy couldn't remember if he called Prof. Hill or she called him!!! It was farce from beginning to end!!!

And, just think of what he permitted Hatch and Specter, etc. to get away with!!!
Alan Simpson!!!! Ridiculous -- outrageous!!!

kissy-face with the bushistas. Yeah, he does put his foot in his mouth sometimes, but he's smart. And who doesn't make a mistake once in awhile? As a politician, you're living your life under a microscope. If you don't make a mistake once in awhile that is published, either you're hiding something and have a great team to sweep stuff under the rug OR you aren't extending yourself to present original ideas. The last perfect person was either crucified or installed in the WH -- Wait! Is that how that saying goes?

I personally think Biden/Clark would make an awesome ticket to get us out of the crap this admin has dumped on us. BUT I'll probably get whacked for even thinking that. At least any Dem that gets elected for Pres should have Biden in his cabinet - Secretary of State!

I hadn't thought of that combination, but they would bring the knowledge necessary to deal with this mess in Iraq.

No "whack" from me!

it is easy to stumble over his tongue.

Yesterday he asked what planet Bush is from!
I love that.

I support Biden because: He is consistent on his positions,he is straight forward with what he means,he is passionate about his beliefs,has tons of experience as chairman of the SFRC,is not a millionaire and believes that we the people have the right to know the truth. :hi:

Has done that for years so he can spend time with his family.

things about Senator Biden.

I have heard from nonpartisan family members that they like Biden and are actually enthusiastic about him. They like the way he speaks directly to the people in a nonscripted way, he explains the situation and then explains why he proposes the solutions he does. He has a genuine sense of humor.

I like Biden because he knows foreign policy, projects strength without threats and has an engaging personality that would make a successful presidential candidate.

I do not think that 08 will be the breeze that some suspect. It may be a bloodbath, especially with Obama and Clinton. I think Biden could do it.

he even "looks" presidential, and I think he would represent our country to foreign leaders with strength and intelligence.

I am still undecided as to my pick at this time.

But I'm looking at this more as experience since I'm in his home state.

Biden is the most qualified, experienced, honest person running for President from any party. He speaks his mind, not a prepared texted message. We need him. If he loses, we all lose.

And I have since last year when I saw him on Bill Maher one nite and he blew me away. He announced that nite live that he was running for office and the whole live audience went nuts. He's brilliant and would be a very capable and strong leader!

And won't make false promises about Iraq (that's being kind to what some candidates suggest for timelines)

I know some here won't hear of it with Biden and want something new and flashy and/or want irrational get out now rhetoric without a valid plan to back it up, but he clearly has the depth for this matter

should Joe himself not win the election.

Delaware is a safe blue state so Joe's seat would be filled with another democrat - Probably whomever doesn't win the governor's election (Jim Carney or Jack Markell) or hell, maybe even Hunter Biden. But Joe has some strong knowledge of foreign policy and could serve well Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State

I like Biden because: I like the way he speaks unscripted,and I like that he takes the time to explain his positions,and looks you in the eye while he speaks and that I understand what he is saying. He has strong family values,stands up to adversity,and he knows what we feel,because he has been there. He is the best qualified candidate on foreign policy,
and has a good record on domestic issues. He has a good plan for getting us out of Iraq. He also doesn't change positions with the political winds. He will make a very good president who will be able to help us regain our standing of respect in the world.

during senate hearings a couple years ago (not sure when). He made Ashcroft SWEAT! We need to see some more of these Bushies sweat!

For the general election, I could support almost any of them (and certainly vote for any of them).

He's got a certain regular-guy appeal somehow; he's a good talker, and I mean that in a positive way. However, it's also kind of his problem because he seems to sort of misspeak unpredictably sometimes. But I guess all are capable of that.

We could do a lot worse than Biden, imho.

They're afraid they'll screw up.

I've been a supporter of Joe Biden since 2004 - informed, intelligent, experienced, and disarmingly direct. He's known for an occasional gaffe, but that's what happens when you don't speak from a well rehearsed script.

I know there are people here who will cite their reasons to oppose him, but we can do that with any of the candidates. Overall his positives outweigh his negatives and from my perspective he is the best choice.

People will say the odds are against him, but I think the front runners are going to burnout from too much exposure in the media. That's when a lower tiered candidate will move forward. Its happened before, many times.

One of the best political speeches I've ever heard was Joe Biden to the IAFF in March. He rivaled even Bill Clinton and received five or six standing ovations. I recommend it to anyone considering Biden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7yhHWuTC4

Why do you think he's been dismissed -- by people in general, by the media punditry, or both -- as someone with "odds against him?"

Is it that he's been around so long? (And why isn't that a positive?) Is it money? What is it, from your point of view?

though I think the media contributes to it a lot.

I was drawn to Biden back in 2004. After three years of Bush, I'd become a political junkie. My adult son had some interest in politics, but not nearly as much as me. One Sunday I was watching Meet the Press and Joe Biden was speaking. I'd seen him before and thought he'd make a good presidential candidate. So in comes my son who usually wants to change the channel. He sat down and listened for a while, turned to me and said, "Why isn't HE running for president?" Prior to that he didn't know who Biden was and came to that conclusion on his own. He has been a supporter ever since.

I think a lot depends on how people come to know Joe Biden. If they hear him speak after being exposed to all the negativity, they have preconceived impressions of him and don't see him the way I did the first time. Since then he has continually reinforced that first impression.

My adult daughter is now a huge supporter as well. I got her to watch the IAFF speech and she was blown away. Now we're working on her fiance! Its going to be a tough sell, but if we can convince him (former republican), there is a chance Biden can win!

The media only speaks of the top 3 who brought in the most money. If he had the money, he could get the name and face recongnition.

Can't buy you love, but sure can buy you coverage!

Don't pay any attention to the polls. You don't know how the questions are being asked.

the real world that I live in. As you say, it must have something to do with the way the questions are being asked. Also it reflects that most people are only familiar with the top tier, at least for now.

They only feature news about Hillary and Obama, and a little of Edwards. The other candidates don't exist in their biased eyes.

The media focuses on every little inane detail in their campaigns, which I think hurts the front runners in the long run. If the lower tiered candidates were in the spotlight, they'd be picking them to pieces. That is why the dark horse often pulls ahead in the race. Then the pundits will act surprised, even though they've seen it happen time after time.

For the next ten years they'll cite one instant, one gaffe that was the frontrunner's downfall - HW Bush looked at his watch during a debate, Dukakis's ride in a tank, John Kerry wind-surfing, etc. The media lives for "moments" and rarely portray a campaign in its entirety.

I listen to some of these people, many of whom have been around for decades, and I shake my head. They feel the need to sum up an entire campaign in 25 words or less and conveniently forget every election where the obscure candidate walked away with the nomination! Four years pass and they do it again.

It pisses me off when they blame Gore and Kerry for losing the election without ever mentioning the multitude of election irregularities. That is the primary reason I started watching Countdown. He was the only mainstream newscaster who dared to bring up Ohio.

is about to kick in, and schools and colleges are starting up, and you can get a good deal on colored pencils and Spiderman bookbags at Target.

But just after Labor Day things on the political front are really going to get gamey.

I predict that John Edwards will win the Iowa caucuses, that Obama and Biden place very close behind in 2nd and third within a percentage point of each other, and Bill Richardson a respectable fourth.

Soon after, over in Nevada, Governor Richardson wins that state's contest, with Sen. Clinton second.

In New Hampshire, Obama finishes a narrow first, Edwards and Biden close behind in 2nd and third, Sen. Clinton 4th.

A caucus/primary race that was deliberately front-loaded but which won't produce an early frontrunner.

Both Biden and Richardson rise into top-tier candidates in this scenario.

Hart, Clark, and Gore are yet to be heard from. I'm working with the current field.

Gravel drops out after Iowa. Also Dodd within 2 weeks of Iowa if not before. Kucinich remains in the race no matter what.

Of course, there are always unexpected events and sometimes fatal missteps - makes things more interesting.

I'm no match.

than any I've heard from seasoned pundits on TV. Don't they ever get tired of being wrong???

make a guess if Al Gore enters the race.

He's poised for a moment very much like the one Karen Black had in NASHVILLE when the "Loretta Lynn" character collapses onstage and Ms. Black strides into the historical moment let us say in such a manner as to exude a healthy sexuality.

I'm thinking the Nobel Prize Committee like the idea of an environmental crusade against global destruction.

I'm thinking no, but wouldn't bet on it.

The thing no one is mentioning is race and gender. there are too many white guys competing against a black, a hispanic and a white woman. It only makes sense that some of the white guys have to make a deal and drop out in order to level out the playing field. I'm not a racist or a sexist, just a realist. Who wants to accept the vice-presidency or a cabinet appointment? That almost has to happen. Maybe after Iowa? Edwards for Attorney General or Vice President. Richardson for Secretary of State or Vice President. Biden for Secretary of State. Dodd for Secretary of the Treasury. Kucinich for Secretary of Labor. Gravel for mandatory retirement. But which one gets the top slot?

question.

And if there's a mixed outcome in Iowa Gore could enter the race late and still shake and bake every poll there is, then or now.

He enjoys a lot of support by county organization folks in a lot of states. They could get real enthusiastic about him real fast.

If he doesn't enter the race, and if Clark and Hart also stay out, then some of who's in now will drop away for lack of cash or owing to thin crowds.

There's an outside chance that no candidate will emerge with a first-ballot win in Denver a year from now.

Is someone trying to resurrect the dead?

before it happened that commercial jets could be appropriated by terrorists against citizens.

http://www.garyhartnews.com/hart/

Hart maintains considerable residual support and while it's not at the level of Al Gore's certainly, foreign policy is what's ailin' us. We need the best, most seasoned looks ahead to make meaningful reforms.

This is a glimpse at Hart's effectiveness in a blast at Rudy Giuliani:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/4/29/1408/79287

He's a good man.

and very perceptive.

What is on its head? Looks like a pancake.

and he is a very good speaker.His positions mimic Hillary's so closely.

I don't think he has much of a chance unless Hillary starts hanging with Britney in LA.


Volunteer anyway... it will be a good experience. You will meet some terrific people.

The world got smaller when they made some boats and started sailing off into the blue horizons. Literature got better, too. Daniel Defoe's book ROBINSON CRUSOE soared into people's imaginations on a rickety boat leaving from a harbor near you and heading for faraway ports you can barely dream of.

The printing press made it smaller yet and the world wide web has reduced it still farther and much faster. From rickety wooden boats to a mouse click and voila, you're in a lounge in Bangkok or Senator Hatch's office in Washington. And god help you if you're in Hatch's office.

U.S. high school students by and large don't know crap about the world they live in. Half of them don't know their 2 U.S. Senators. 80% can't tell you the name of even one Supreme Court Justice or which century Lincoln was president in.

I think the country is better off with a greater emphasis at all levels on the shrinking, complex, and alluring globe.

I think Joe Biden's foreign policy expertise is to world politics what Sandy Koufax's curve ball was to baseball. Biden's an adept.

Voting for John Edwards, I wouldn't be averse at all to a Biden nomination.

ugly and stupid. Because he's not really all that bad, and I think he'll make a fine Secretary of State.

I really think the voters want the war to end, and that is why Congress has such a low approval rating right now.

What we really need in a President right now is whoever is best qualified to deal with Iraq.

If the repukes keep it up with their usual stance on Iraq, they are going to lose. The voters clearly aren't going for that anymore, other than the rock bottom 25%.

with all that will be going on re Iraq in September, Senate foreign affairs committee hearings and such. I hope he makes the most of it, but without turning these hearings into campaign speeches.

The main thing is that he's the only one with a workable plan for Iraq. No other plan makes sense. Maliki has to go. He is totally ineffective. Maybe we need a second coming of Saddam!

:kick:

A vote for anyone else would just be
settling for the nominee.

I am very committed to the Biden camp.

Give some of my stuff a bump.

We definately need his wisdom somewhere

He needs to be in a position of leadership. Chris Matthews threw out "Secretary of State" and it stuck, but I don't think Biden would settle for that. He'd be good at the job though.

:toast:

The country is craving leadership and decisive leadership in Iraq and foreign policy. Hi candor, experience, and knowledge would win over many independents and I bet some Republicans too. We are talking about bringing people to us, not becoming Republican lite. We are talking about a real chance for decisive, strong, FDR, Kennedy foreign policy leadership.

I think many other people share your opinion, they just haven't voiced it. If someone takes the time to study the candidates Biden stands out head over heels!

We need to stop looking for a "star" and look for a real "leader". And a leader that can actually WIN.

Picture him up against Rudy, Thompson, or Romney! I can see them shriveling right now.

ROTFL...

They really started with "In a World..."

Cue the "In a world" guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXbFuNQwTbs

:kick:

Bankruptcy Bill. You have to be a total asshole who doesn't care about average people to vote for shit like that.

to be "a total asshole who doesn't care about average people."

A wide majority of Delware Democratic voters who have returned Joe Biden to the U.S. Senate for decades very likely also do not consider themselves to be total assholes.

But you could ask them and find out.

Plus all the other average folks screwed by that legislation.

and he doesn't live in Kansas.

If you'd like to examine the facts, here's a useful starting point:

http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Joe_Biden.htm

Thanks to Joe, medical bills are no longer an excuse. Thanks, but no thanks.

That doesn't make people who prefer other candidates "total assholes" as you claim.

Again. If you want a dialogue on issues and Biden's voting record, I provided the link.

I don't consider myself an "asshole",although we all probably can be one on occasion.I think we could all find something about each of the candidates positions,including the one we support that does not benefit our personal situations. I know you have heard this many times,but Delawares' main industries are banking and agriculture. If we are all honest with ourselves,we know that bankruptcy was way to easy.
The bottom line is if we create the debt then we are responsible to pay it.
The cost of bankruptcy is passed on to those customers who do pay
in the form of higher rates. Maybe those folks don't like paying more because some couldn't and file bankruptcy. With the change in the
law,"deadbeat dads or moms" can no longer file bankruptcy to avoid paying
child support arearages. As someone who had to deal with this in the past, let me tell you that is huge! Before You blast me,I realize that
"stuff happens" and not all bankruptcies are the result of irresponsibility, but way too many are.

their fees on people like me?

I was 1 week late on a payment and got hit with a $39- fee!

These corporations will make their money one way or another. So when
people claim bankruptcy, everyone else pays.

:kick:

and charge a toll every time a DUer wants to enter and leave the group :bounce:

:shrug:

that there should be a toll to enter/exit the Biden group since the Senator and LynneSin are from Deleware..:7

I should have gotten that. I live in Delaware too.

:kick:

Delaware native here for 44 years.

He's gaffe-city, but I always support him for President until he drops out.

Some think he comes across as smarmy, bombastic, and egotistical. But, once you get to know him, and I had to deal with him every Saturday morning for his Constitutional Law class at Widener, you come to realize those are his GOOD points.

He does have a pretty good sense of humor, though...

He likes to tell 'war stories' such as the Bork nomination. One of the students suggested that Joe and Robert Bork should go on Celebrity Deathmath.

"Celebrity Deathmatch... what's that?"

"It's a show on MTV where they have celebrities battle to the death."

"To the death? Really? On TV?" The thing is, Joe was really intrigued by this idea of actually fighting to the death with Robert Bork.

"Well, it's only claymation."

"Claymation? What's that?"

"It's a type of animation done with clay. They don't really have people fighting to the death"

"Oh" and with that, you could see the disappointment fall across his face.

The other golden moment was that we had to write a paper for his class. When he gave us a strict warning that "I will not tolerate plagiarism" I couldn't help but try, without much success, to keep from giggling. He knew why I was giggling, and just wagged his finger at me and said, "Yeah, okay... enough of that."

Good for you, and good for Joe Biden for having the sense of humor. Sounds like a pretty good experience overall, actually.

This year he may get a bit further on the campaign trail. He seems to have a full head of steam this time and he's persuading people one at a time and in small groups. Let's see how his poll number do as we get past Labor Day nd the "Petreaus report" -- when we can match public disillusion with Bush's war policy to Biden's expertise in foreign relations. I think that's the hinge that brings Biden into greater focus and prominence in this 08 nomination race.

I used to commute to Philly from Wilmington on the train, so we all got to see him just about every morning on the platform.

The battle of "experience" between Obama and Clinton is pretty funny when you consider that Joe has more relevant experience in national politics and with foreign policy in particular, than the entire field on either side.

Amtrak ride he takes to work.

I love that about Biden.

I'm a train lover myself. And the carbon footprint is real low on the rails. Good for Joe.

I can kind of picture him glancing through the newspaper on the way in.

Also I agree on his foreign relations creds. He's an adept. And we haven't had an adept in a decision-making or policy-shaping position since Dubya moved in to the White House.

And it's time we did.

Joe Biden has always been one of the least wealthy, if not the least wealthy, member of the Senate during his entire career.

When folks complain about House and Senate salaries, many don't realize that for most members the job entails maintaining a residence in their district or state and in DC, which isn't exactly cheap.

between Delaware and DC.

I wish Joe Biden all good steps in his campaign this year, and I think he's going to surprise a few folks.

a row house with representatives George Miller of CA and Bill Delahunt of MA. Their living arrangement was actually considered as a prospect for a sitcom at one time. Meanwhile, they have to support families and household at home. For many it is not the high life unless they cheat or came to office with money. You have to either love the job or have long term political ambitions to live this lifestyle for years.

Not all take the path of the Duke Cunninghams of DC.

More on the DC foursome:

http://gawker.com/news/chuck-schumer/but-does-chuck-schumer-have-roommates-229582.php

with these small groups, occasional TV appearances, and two simple, but effective ads. If he goes the distance, it will be proof that you don't needs gobs of cash to run a good campaign. He could be making history that will have the pundits scratching their clueless heads for years to come.

case of how message trumps cash.

I'm not expecting that it will be a smooth ride. But on the other hand, Biden's a tough customer, and could make it happen.

I respect the guy and want to see his expertise in foreign relations hugely impacted on U.S. foreign policy. 6-8 years of Dubya on that front have been an unmitigated disaster.

I would love to see an election where "message trumps cash". If it doesn't happen, I can live with that, but not if I didn't try. Six and half years of Bush have made me a different person. After years of relative political apathy, I want to be a vocal part of the political process.

adroitly so.

Also you've attached yourself to one of the great Democrats. Joe Biden has been in the Congress for decades.

The country just opted twice for a brainless monkey. We ought to consider an experienced sage. Biden fills the bill.

I like our field very much this time, and see many winners and many policy-impacters. The GOP field looks notably pathetic.

It's going to be engaging and fun. I predict you'll be in it up to your neck by Christmas and loving every minute.

It was "engaging and fun" and the profound elation when Nixon resigned was unforgettable. This gang is far worse. Every day brings yet another outrageous action or statement that defies logic or sanity.

The GOP field DOES look pathetic. I watched one republican debate and actually felt more pity than contempt. They just don't get it. But that's good for us!

:kick:

That is such I funny story about the plagiarism.
He has such a great sense of humor. He goes from being the serious senator one minute to saying some of the
most hilarious things.

When he was asking Ruth Bader Ginsberg questions he applauded her for refusing to comment on current issues. Then Stewart showed a newer clip of Biden castigating John Roberts for refusing to comment on current issues...

Well, it was a lot funnier when Jon Stewart did it...

Anyway despite that Biden is the smartest Democrat in the Senate on foreign affairs, and I support him.

He is definitely the right person to fix the mess this administration created.

I just can't get over his low numbers. You think
people would have learned what to look for.

I wouldn't say I'm a supporter of his, but I like his style. He's a bit too corporate for me but I would have no qualms supporting him in the general elections.