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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 03:57 PM Original message |
How exactly do you achieve "unity" without triangulation? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nope. You're describing compromise. That ain't triangulation |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Aside from the definition of it, what evidence is there that the right-wing will compromise? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I dunno, but I do know triangulation = surrender |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. And unecessary concessions do not=surrender? nt |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. And you're opposed to winning? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Carrying (and using) a big stick? |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. how do you triangulate equality? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Sell it down the river |
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youngdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. By focusing on issues that aren't intentionally divisive |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. How do you achieve broad agreement? The only way is to make concessions to the right-wing |
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youngdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. There IS broad agreement on many issues |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. Triangulation is just a code word corporatists use |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. It is now being repackaged as "unity" and many progressives are buying it |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. compromise creates unity -- Triangulation is another beast altogether. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. I just wish they'd triangulate back toward the genuine heart of the Party |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. um...compromise is not always the best solution |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. excellent point on torture -- |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. This is why Obama is so appealing |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. So you believe Obama's rhetoric will convince right-wingers to become progressives on key issues? |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. He will never convert extreme right wingers; but there are lots of moderate Repubs |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. How? How do you convince "moderate" Republicans who vote with Trent Lott 80+% of the time to... |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. Leadership. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. How? That is a faith-based initiative. We can't vote for someone on "faith" or "hope" |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-23-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You don't seem to understand leadership. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-24-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. exellent post, and the best definition of triangulation I've seen. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-24-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. You seem to not understand that "unity" has never existed since the man in your avatar became prez |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-24-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. All I can tell you is to study some history. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-24-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You might want to talk to some eldery African-Americans about our 1940's "unity" nt |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I notice you completely sidestep the issue of why triangulation is NOT leadership |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I haven't seen a definition yet that accurately describes what Triangulation is.. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. since your candidate is a large practioner, perhaps YOU could offer a better definition |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. If you're claiming it's the preferred strategy of the dlc...can you provide a link first.. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. LOL. do you EVER directly answer a question? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Of course I do.. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-25-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. still not an answer |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-26-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. why would you have a problem with pre-conditions.. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-26-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. ok, I'm done dancin |
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